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6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft

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LesbianNana · 07/08/2026 23:58

I can’t wait to see who drafts my girl Enes Kanter Freedom. 😂

In a video, the former New York Knicks and Boston Celtics star said: 'After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I’m officially declaring myself a @WNBA prospect.

'If simply declaring who you are is all that’s required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA.

'My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA’s eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027.”

”See you at training camp.”

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

Former NBA star officially declares for WNBA Draft amid trans debate

Kanter, who played in the NBA for 11 seasons, shared the announcement on social media on Friday afternoon amid the ongoing debate around transgender inclusion in sports.

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

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AnAutumnCrow · 11/08/2026 17:22

mrshoho · 11/08/2026 12:39

Yes you're quite right. The current WNBA's eligibility criteria is fucking pathetic. Or did you mean something else?

I think the poster means that it is ‘fucking pathetic’ for men to take the piss out of men who are taking the piss out of women, which doesn’t really hold water as a philosophical position.

You’ve almost got to admire the bravado of these deeply right wing TRAs, though. Take Jojo Maugham - he’s pretty much installation art these days.

callmeLoretta1 · 11/08/2026 14:37

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 09/08/2026 15:11

There are no trans women in the WNBA. About nine trans athletes in high school teams in the whole USA.

But sure, let's allow misogynistic men take the piss out of women's sport. Let's declare trans people the real emergency, because who wants to discuss stuff like inequality of access and sponsorship, and widespread abuse by coaches, when we could have cis men showboating about how they're our saviours. How incredibly constructive.

The best way to save women's sport remains paying to attend it. Which everyone should because it's brilliant fun.

There are 28 trans athletes in one state alone. And you say 9 like it's no big deal. One, is ONE TOO MANY.

Misogynistic males are already taking the piss out of women's sport, and our spaces. By making it more blatantly obvious, the good males are proving a point. Any male, no matter how they identify, in women's sport or spaces is taking the piss. That's the entire point.

mrshoho · 11/08/2026 12:39

Merkins · 11/08/2026 12:11

Absolutely fucking pathetic.

Yes you're quite right. The current WNBA's eligibility criteria is fucking pathetic. Or did you mean something else?

Merkins · 11/08/2026 12:11

LesbianNana · 07/08/2026 23:58

I can’t wait to see who drafts my girl Enes Kanter Freedom. 😂

In a video, the former New York Knicks and Boston Celtics star said: 'After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I’m officially declaring myself a @WNBA prospect.

'If simply declaring who you are is all that’s required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA.

'My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA’s eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027.”

”See you at training camp.”

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

Absolutely fucking pathetic.

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 12:11

fromorbit · 11/08/2026 08:15

White sounds scarily convincing. He must be "trans" with insights like this.

“It Was the Transgender Trapped Inside of Me”: Royce White Explains His Fear of Flying Days After WNBA Declaration

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-legends-wnba-basketball-news-it-was-the-transgender-trapped-inside-of-me-royce-white-explains-his-fear-of-flying-days-after-wnba-declaration/

Enes Kanter Freedom's WNBA Letter Only Has 1 Realistic Outcome
The WNBA must act quickly to move forward from the discourse surrounding transgender participation, and there's only one course of action to take.

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/enes-kanter-freedom-wnba-letter-has-1-realistic-outcome

Sci**logy, apparently, has the cure for trapped souls causing us harm, although the full therapy is quite expensive, I believe.

Still realizing you have a trapped trans inside you is a powerful insight. It might explain my fear of heights.

MarieDeGournay · 11/08/2026 10:34

GreyskySexRealistsky · 10/08/2026 21:46

Does anyone follow wokeandwoofing on X? I recommend you do!

Latest comment:

"Disgraceful. You are just pretending you want to cheat at sport, in order to make fun of people who genuinely want to cheat at sport."

😂😂😂

Interesting to see that the Sports Illustrated/Women's Fastbreak article , linked to by Helleofabore
https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/enes-kanter-freedom-wnba-letter-has-1-realistic-outcome

is in favour of basketball following the lead of other sporting bodies and testing to ID biological men/women
This is basically the same policy that the International Olympic Committee (IOC) has adopted going forward. And while there are definitely some who oppose this, there are more supporters than detractors for both the WTA and the IOC policies.

BabaYagasHouse linked to another very interesting article, which points out that the WNBA already had a bio female transgender player, without controversy:
www.theknownheretic.com/p/why-is-nobody-talking-about-layshia

so the issue is not, as SC says, about trans players in women's basketball, been there done that, it's about male players in women's basketball.

BBC et al., please note🙄

moto748e · 11/08/2026 10:10

AnAutumnCrow · 11/08/2026 08:44

It’s never explained. In particular the ‘progressive left’ can never explain is why the genuine left wing readership of the Morning Star (peace & socialism ✌) are sex realists. Sex class analysis, a key part of class analysis, can’t exist without acknowledgement of the sex binary and the impact of it on society through human history.

It’s the ‘progressive left’ and the TRAs who are massively right wing. This can’t be said enough.

Couldn't agree more. What it does do is show up what a bunch of shysters the Parliamentary Labour Party currently is, although they probably don't reflect the views of Party members, with only a handful of exceptions. How can a movement which exalts the rights of the individual over the common good be left-wing?

AsHot · 11/08/2026 09:16

AnAutumnCrow · 11/08/2026 08:44

It’s never explained. In particular the ‘progressive left’ can never explain is why the genuine left wing readership of the Morning Star (peace & socialism ✌) are sex realists. Sex class analysis, a key part of class analysis, can’t exist without acknowledgement of the sex binary and the impact of it on society through human history.

It’s the ‘progressive left’ and the TRAs who are massively right wing. This can’t be said enough.

Yup, trying to paint gender critical beliefs as right wing is American cultural imperialism. In the UK, our most reliably GC political parties are far left. The Communists have been plugging away at this for years.

AnAutumnCrow · 11/08/2026 08:44

TheKeatingFive · 10/08/2026 06:12

Why would wanting women's sports to remain single sex be a 'right wing' thing? Can anyone explain?

It’s never explained. In particular the ‘progressive left’ can never explain is why the genuine left wing readership of the Morning Star (peace & socialism ✌) are sex realists. Sex class analysis, a key part of class analysis, can’t exist without acknowledgement of the sex binary and the impact of it on society through human history.

It’s the ‘progressive left’ and the TRAs who are massively right wing. This can’t be said enough.

fromorbit · 11/08/2026 08:15

White sounds scarily convincing. He must be "trans" with insights like this.

“It Was the Transgender Trapped Inside of Me”: Royce White Explains His Fear of Flying Days After WNBA Declaration

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-legends-wnba-basketball-news-it-was-the-transgender-trapped-inside-of-me-royce-white-explains-his-fear-of-flying-days-after-wnba-declaration/

Enes Kanter Freedom's WNBA Letter Only Has 1 Realistic Outcome
The WNBA must act quickly to move forward from the discourse surrounding transgender participation, and there's only one course of action to take.

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/enes-kanter-freedom-wnba-letter-has-1-realistic-outcome

Enes Kanter Freedom's WNBA Letter Only Has 1 Realistic Outcome

The WNBA must act quickly to move forward from the discourse surrounding transgender participation, and there's only one course of action to take.

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/enes-kanter-freedom-wnba-letter-has-1-realistic-outcome

Helleofabore · 10/08/2026 21:59

spannasaurus · 10/08/2026 21:40

The BBC article, as with most other articles, talks about barring transgender athletes rather than what Sophie actually said which was men should be barred

She later doubled down on her comments, saying it was "common sense", external to bar transgender athletes from competing in women's sports.

It is a more than a bit dishonest of BBC to disconnect that paragraph from the sentence above.

“She said she wanted to "extend love" to everyone, but added: "I also think with that love is truth, being honest. And I want to protect young girls in a locker room, or young girls in sport who shouldn't have to go against biological men."”

“She later doubled down on her comments, saying it was "common sense" to bar transgender athletes from competing in women's sports.”

No BBC! She only ever referred to the ‘biological men’. Disconnecting the sentences like that really makes it open for misrepresentation.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 10/08/2026 21:46

Does anyone follow wokeandwoofing on X? I recommend you do!

Latest comment:

"Disgraceful. You are just pretending you want to cheat at sport, in order to make fun of people who genuinely want to cheat at sport."

spannasaurus · 10/08/2026 21:40

The BBC article, as with most other articles, talks about barring transgender athletes rather than what Sophie actually said which was men should be barred

She later doubled down on her comments, saying it was "common sense", external to bar transgender athletes from competing in women's sports.

BabaYagasHouse · 10/08/2026 21:10

Article by Known Heretic (Amy E Sousa) about how WBNA have already had a transgender player- TIF. Which highlights the issue being about male players:

www.theknownheretic.com/p/why-is-nobody-talking-about-layshia

Helleofabore · 10/08/2026 20:07

All the ad hominem attacks in the world don’t change the facts.

The WNBA has a policy that allows male people to apply. And would leave the WMBA open to legal challenges if they didn’t recruit a male athlete.

That is why all these Whatabout attacks are fucking meaningless.

moto748e · 10/08/2026 19:42

Ah, but thanks to the wonders of Doublethink...

Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/08/2026 19:35

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 10/08/2026 12:55

100% of TRAs screaming about how Royce White is a wifebeater are committing the logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well". It's a form of ad hominem attack and they are using it to avoid engaging with the point that he is making, which is that nothing in WNBA rules stops him from signing up as a female player.

As @Datun and JKR both point out, that one of these men is a wifebeater and could still sign up s a female player underlines our argument that no man should be allowed to compete in women's sports or use women's changing rooms.

Gosh those TRA will be gutted when they find out about the TW who have beaten and abused women then

UtopiaPlanitia · 10/08/2026 15:46

fromorbit · 10/08/2026 11:15

JKR has now posted on this in response to TA outage about insincere men in dresses wanting to play basketball. Read the entire thread it is hilarious:

J.K. Rowling
17h
AndrewMercado You say some men ‘sincerely’ identify as women, but that these two men aren’t sincere. Do sincere men injure fewer women and girls than the insincere ones? How do we test for sincerity? What if a Sincerity Jury is split? Very much looking forward to your answers.

https://nitter.net/jk_rowling/status/2086492523774489082#m

And of course, when this man feels affronted, by a woman standing up to him, he does the usual TRA thing of sneeringly calling her 'Joanne' to try and talk down to her 🙄

fromorbit · 10/08/2026 15:27

Great thread with a long list of male cheats in women's basketball including accounts of women being injured by them. This is a real problem worldwide:

https://nitter.net/hecheateddotorg/status/2084744457736372399

SirChenjins · 10/08/2026 15:13

It was horrific - and that it what women and girls face when they are forced to compete against boys and men. The video is appalling - the girl is desperately trying to get the adults attention and nothing is done to stop the match or check she's ok. She's obviously very distressed.

So the boy gets away from it? Yep, sounds about right - protect the trans kids, fuck the rights of girls 😡

Binglebong · 10/08/2026 14:15

DearCrow · 10/08/2026 07:55

From reading the Collective Bargaining Agreement between WNBA and WNBPA as a whole it seems extremely unlikely that this intends to define "women" as including men who call themselves women. There are provisions for pregnancy and childbirth. There are references to women's health experts. There is a stated goal of promoting women's empowerment.

The wording of "only players who are women are eligible to play in the WNBA" has been in the CBA since it was first agreed in 1999, and repeated verbatim in each renegotiation. There is no chance whatsoever that this included male transsexuals back in the 90s, and there is no evidence to indicate that this means something different now.

Also, there have been two trans-identifying WNBA players in recent years: Layshia Clarendon and Asia Durr, each of whom declared herself to be "non-binary". They weren't kicked out of the league, but continued competing, as the women they are. This in itself shows the CBA intends "women" to be read as actual female women.

So I don't buy any of these arguments that the WNBA haven't precisely defined "women" therefore men who say they're women can be drafted. The definition is clear from both context and practice.

We have literally had to go to the highest Court in the uk to define woman for the equality act.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 10/08/2026 13:39

spannasaurus · 10/08/2026 13:30

Two of the coaches have been charged with failing to follow mandatory reporting of the assault. I'm not aware of any action being taken against the boy

Searched for it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/female-wrestler-16-alleges-assault-by-trans-opponent-doe-investigating/ar-AA1Wjg8I Holy shit.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/female-wrestler-16-alleges-assault-by-trans-opponent-doe-investigating/ar-AA1Wjg8I

spannasaurus · 10/08/2026 13:30

SirChenjins · 10/08/2026 12:59

What happened to the male who sexually assaulted his female opponent during a wrestling competition in view of all the spectators? I seem to remember the coach didn't stop the match, nor were the police called immediately. Has he been banned yet and charged?

Edited

Two of the coaches have been charged with failing to follow mandatory reporting of the assault. I'm not aware of any action being taken against the boy

murasaki · 10/08/2026 13:04

As I remember, the victim was a teenage girl who was trying to alert people as it happened, and nothing was done.