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6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft

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LesbianNana · 07/08/2026 23:58

I can’t wait to see who drafts my girl Enes Kanter Freedom. 😂

In a video, the former New York Knicks and Boston Celtics star said: 'After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I’m officially declaring myself a @WNBA prospect.

'If simply declaring who you are is all that’s required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA.

'My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA’s eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027.”

”See you at training camp.”

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

Former NBA star officially declares for WNBA Draft amid trans debate

Kanter, who played in the NBA for 11 seasons, shared the announcement on social media on Friday afternoon amid the ongoing debate around transgender inclusion in sports.

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

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Talkinpeace · 28/08/2026 21:09

Who are the males in the WNBA
its a simple question

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/08/2026 20:31

Talkinpeace · 28/08/2026 20:00

Griner will pass. She is female.
If you listen to the original Sophie Cunningham interview she mentions "BG"

If Putin could have proved that a USA male had played in the Russian female basketball leage
HE WOULD

he did not because she is female

Are there any other players that people have doubts about ?

How strange that you seem quite to have failed to read the post you replied to. It quite specifically did not cast any doubt on the individual's sex, merely suggested that it would be easily possible to quash any further doubts expressed about it by anyone.

But then, the guilty flee where no man pursueth, so you probably just assume attack where none has been made, and take offence where none has been given.

Talkinpeace · 28/08/2026 20:00

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/08/2026 17:20

I'd definitely be interested in Britney Griner publicly taking that cheek-swab and putting paid once for all to rumours about her sex. I'd think it would be to Griner's advantage to do so, on the whole: all the scuttlebutt must be a complete pain, being liable to mess things up unexpectedly and at the very least causing unnecessary stress.

Griner will pass. She is female.
If you listen to the original Sophie Cunningham interview she mentions "BG"

If Putin could have proved that a USA male had played in the Russian female basketball leage
HE WOULD

he did not because she is female

Are there any other players that people have doubts about ?

Cailleach1 · 28/08/2026 19:58

Talkinpeace · 28/08/2026 13:54

Who are these mystical males playing in the WBNA ?

Brittney Griner is definitely female.

Name the ones people think are male

Have you seen results from a cheek swab then? To be so certain. Or is it more an unverified personal opinion?

Rather reminds me of the line ‘Oh! let us never, never doubt What nobody is sure about!‘ from ‘The Microbe’ by Hilaire Belloc. When people lack solid facts, the more they exude an unfounded confidence to compensate for said dearth to bolster what only amounts to their opinion.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/08/2026 17:20

I'd definitely be interested in Britney Griner publicly taking that cheek-swab and putting paid once for all to rumours about her sex. I'd think it would be to Griner's advantage to do so, on the whole: all the scuttlebutt must be a complete pain, being liable to mess things up unexpectedly and at the very least causing unnecessary stress.

Talkinpeace · 28/08/2026 13:54

Who are these mystical males playing in the WBNA ?

Brittney Griner is definitely female.

Name the ones people think are male

murasaki · 28/08/2026 00:00

They'd also need to apologise to all the other players, but that won't happen either.

moto748e · 27/08/2026 23:44

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 27/08/2026 22:51

The statement they release can go:
We did not previously realise that some players with a female habitus are actually male. We apologise unreservedly to those players for failing to check their eligibility sooner. It is entirely down to our failure to verify sex sooner that those players have been allowed to believe that they are eligible when in fact they are not.

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For sure, but has any org done such a mea culpa so far? I don't think so, and I don't think it'll happen anytime soon. Especially in the US.

NotBadConsidering · 27/08/2026 23:40

Yes, that’s what they should say, and what they should do, but they know it will make them look stupid, and they’re too proud and vain to humble themselves like that.

So they’re trying to find a way around it that doesn’t involve that. They can’t. They are stuck.

Option one: release a statement like that and accept the humbling that comes with it and have to be contrite, or apologise, or self damaging (people will probably have to lose it change their jobs as a result)

Option two: keep pretending males in women’s sport isn’t a problem until their hand is forced and they look stupid then.

Basically, they need to rip the band aid off and swallow their pride.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 27/08/2026 22:51

NotBadConsidering · 27/08/2026 22:03

Because it’s likely they already have males with DSDs in the competition. They know that implementing a a sex screening policy will confirm what many have suspected for a while about certain players, and they’ll have to explain why they’ve been allowing males in the WNBA already.

The statement they release can go:
We did not previously realise that some players with a female habitus are actually male. We apologise unreservedly to those players for failing to check their eligibility sooner. It is entirely down to our failure to verify sex sooner that those players have been allowed to believe that they are eligible when in fact they are not.

NotBadConsidering · 27/08/2026 22:03

nicepotoftea · 27/08/2026 17:02

Given that basketball is an Olympic sport, I don't understand why they don't just copy the rules used by the Olympics.

Because it’s likely they already have males with DSDs in the competition. They know that implementing a a sex screening policy will confirm what many have suspected for a while about certain players, and they’ll have to explain why they’ve been allowing males in the WNBA already.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2026 17:04

Something came through my news feed where the said the capture was due to the LGBTQ status of many players/fans. That sounds reasonable as I believe we see that in women’s football too.

nicepotoftea · 27/08/2026 17:02

fromorbit · 27/08/2026 16:54

Things are escalating

Male Players Are Testing The WNBA’s Eligibility Rules. Here’s How Other Women’s Sports Decide Who Can Play
In another social media post, Kanter Freedom claimed he had talked to eight male players from the NBA, the G League and the European leagues who said they were interested in participating in the WNBA draft. “The NBA G- League pays players $45,000 a year, while the WNBA top players earn $1.4 Million. Those ‘men’ could earn an extra $1,355,000 a year by just identifying as women,” he wrote. Kanter Freedom was ejected from a WNBA game last Sunday after a confrontation with a player over this issue.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2026/08/25/male-players-are-testing-the-wnbas-eligibility-rules-heres-how-other-womens-sports-decide-who-can-play/

Enes Kanter Freedom responds to Chicago Sky owner on ejection and ban, plans to sue
https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-sports/enes-kanter-freedom-responds-chicago-sky-owner-ejection-ban-plans-sue

WNBA still can't work out what a woman is
https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-sports/wnba-nba-silent-transgender-eligibility-debate-players-coaches-take-heat

Given that basketball is an Olympic sport, I don't understand why they don't just copy the rules used by the Olympics.

fromorbit · 27/08/2026 16:54

Things are escalating

Male Players Are Testing The WNBA’s Eligibility Rules. Here’s How Other Women’s Sports Decide Who Can Play
In another social media post, Kanter Freedom claimed he had talked to eight male players from the NBA, the G League and the European leagues who said they were interested in participating in the WNBA draft. “The NBA G- League pays players $45,000 a year, while the WNBA top players earn $1.4 Million. Those ‘men’ could earn an extra $1,355,000 a year by just identifying as women,” he wrote. Kanter Freedom was ejected from a WNBA game last Sunday after a confrontation with a player over this issue.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2026/08/25/male-players-are-testing-the-wnbas-eligibility-rules-heres-how-other-womens-sports-decide-who-can-play/

Enes Kanter Freedom responds to Chicago Sky owner on ejection and ban, plans to sue
https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-sports/enes-kanter-freedom-responds-chicago-sky-owner-ejection-ban-plans-sue

WNBA still can't work out what a woman is
https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-sports/wnba-nba-silent-transgender-eligibility-debate-players-coaches-take-heat

Enes Kanter Freedom responds to Chicago Sky owner on ejection and ban, plans to sue

Enes Kanter Freedom responds to Chicago Sky owner on ejection and ban, plans to sue

Enes Kanter Freedom says he and his legal team will take action against the Chicago Sky and owner Michael Alter after his ejection and arena ban.

https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-sports/enes-kanter-freedom-responds-chicago-sky-owner-ejection-ban-plans-sue

lcakethereforeIam · 27/08/2026 15:50

The shape-shifting doesn't actually require any shape-shifting.

Cailleach1 · 27/08/2026 14:54

MyAmpleSheep · 13/08/2026 16:52

I don’t think anyone has a clue what being trans means.

You employ magic to ‘shape shift’ into the other sex. You can claim to feel it in your water, so it appears, that you are not what you actually are. No evidence can be given, but some sort of a belief in flat earth magic is involved.

MarmaladeorJam · 27/08/2026 14:43

I have no idea who this man is but he is so good at this.

murasaki · 18/08/2026 16:16

I don't know who is feeding him his lines, as I assume someone is, or maybe I'm not giving him enough credit, but fair play to them.

murasaki · 18/08/2026 16:15

Yes, it must be most annoying to see their language mirrored back at them by an obvious pisstaker. You'd think they might cotton on, but no...

But they can't really call him out when they say the same things. It's fab.

UtopiaPlanitia · 18/08/2026 15:49

fromorbit · 18/08/2026 03:02

He really has the language down.

Royce White 🇺🇸

I’m new to the Trans community and I’m not even sure what Roselyn is really trying to say… But the idea that I have to take hormones is disgusting cis normative bigotry. If gender is fluid, hormones are literally fluid. People who say I have to have surgery or take hormones are bullies.

Royce White for President
1st Black Trans Lesbian President
Don’t Bully My Hormones
WNBA LetHerPlay

This movement is very much based in language and the use of language to remove boundaries and destroy categories. He really does sound indistinguishable from some of the 'serious' woman-wannabes - I can see why this really pisses them off.

fromorbit · 18/08/2026 03:02

He really has the language down.

Royce White 🇺🇸

I’m new to the Trans community and I’m not even sure what Roselyn is really trying to say… But the idea that I have to take hormones is disgusting cis normative bigotry. If gender is fluid, hormones are literally fluid. People who say I have to have surgery or take hormones are bullies.

Royce White for President
1st Black Trans Lesbian President
Don’t Bully My Hormones
WNBA LetHerPlay

Helleofabore · 15/08/2026 03:41

A petition has been started.

https://x.com/hogshead3au/status/2088424377972936782?s=46

Obviously I won’t post the direct link. But look for it on change dot com.

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The WNBA Should Enact “Female-Only” Eligibility Criteria

I am calling on the WNBA to explicitly clarify that “woman” means female for eligibility purposes, and to protect fair and safe competition for female athletes.

The issue is not complicated. The WNBA exists for women and their fans. Biological female athletes deserve clear rules that ensure fair competition and uphold the opportunities that women's sports advocates have worked over decades to create and provide.

The NBA Board of Governors approved the WNBA in 1996, paving the way for elite female basketball players to have what previous generations were denied: a professional league and the chance to compete at the highest level.

The fundamental reason for separate categories in women's sports is obvious: biological differences lead to significant male / female disparities in strength, speed, power, and other physical traits that are crucial at the highest levels of competition.

Acknowledging these realities is not a mark of disrespect for women. We are designed perfectly, on a different developmental pathway from men.

Formal sex-segregation creates opportunities for females that wouldn’t exist if there were just one sports team. Strict enforcement of a female-only category is the only way to guarantee that right for the WNBA players and the league.

We urge the WNBA to restrict eligibility to biological women who have been female since birth. This is consistent with the International Olympic Committee, the NCAA, the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee, World Aquatics, and World Athletics, and is consistent with other sport categories that are strictly enforced - including age, weight, equipment, and drug testing. The female category should be enforced through sex screening, as the Women’s Tennis Association, another all-female professional league, now does.

Roster spots, records, championships, and careers are at stake. Our athletes deserve clarity, not ambiguity. We must apply the same rules consistently and allow women’s basketball to focus on the game itself.

It’s time for the WNBA to clearly define the "W" once and for all, ensuring that the next generation of women can trust in the integrity of their sport.

Signed,
Nancy Hogshead, J.D., OLY

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Nancy Hogshead, JD, Oly (@Hogshead3Au) on X

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https://x.com/hogshead3au/status/2088424377972936782?s=46

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/08/2026 23:12

Bump

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/08/2026 17:42

TheKeatingFive · 14/08/2026 17:40

I know right?

Call it pride, but I couldn't bring myself to pretend to be that stupid.

Indeed. I can’t take any of them seriously.

TheKeatingFive · 14/08/2026 17:40

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/08/2026 15:23

I think that one of the reasons that I find women who support the bonkers idea that humans, uniquely among all mammals, can change sex is the sheer stupidity and embarrassment they bring on all other women.

They give sexist men a lot of cover for laughing at women for wanting their sex-based rights enforced when those other women are happily agreeing to have them taken away. Their self-sabotaging behaviour makes life difficult for all women.

Their toxic empathy is damaging to ALL women and girls. And they don't care because it's more important to them to appear virtuous.

It's feckin 2026 and we have supposedly sensible women's sporting organisations meeting and finding themselves unable to define what exactly the class of human beings are that their organisation was set up to benefit.

It's all so mind-numbingly ridiculous!

I know right?

Call it pride, but I couldn't bring myself to pretend to be that stupid.