6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft

A number of posters on this thread seem very certain that Griner is female. What is the evidence they are relying upon?

Good point Jelly.

I wonder if we will stop seeing that absurd trite sentiment any time soon.

I don’t understand why I have to be DBS checked - I’ve never harmed a child and I know I never would.

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@Talkinpeace ‘Griner will pass. She is female.’

Lol. Lance Armstrong ‘passed’ as a non doper for ages too. Until Floyd Landis was pissed off enough to squeal about their team’s systemic doping, and bring in the US anti-doping Agency.

Imagine there are complete ‘chemical enhancphobic’ bigots out there who want to out, and exclude, those who are being their true doper selves, in order to try to maintain fair sports in the male category.

Moral of the story; you need to check them all. Cheaters not going to admit anything, and someone feeling it in their water that certain players are legit is not a reliable or scientific method.

edited to correct USADA. Agency not Association.

Only female people apparently are hateful to want to ensure their protected sports category is only for female people and excludes all male people who have a body that produces or has produced testosterone within the male range when that body can process that testosterone to masculinise to any degree.

Apparently, female people wanting to ensure this are the problem.

I identify as a ticket holder so don't question me

I don't understand why you have to show tickets before they'll let you in to watch the game. It's not like people who don't have tickets will try to speak in and, if they do, imagine how humiliated they'd be at being caught.

No need to go to the fuss of drug testing either is there?

If there aren't any dopers present, there doesn't appear to be a problem to solve never mind it being essential. No need for any doping tests.

Your argument is very immature and irrational.

Gosh. If only we could trust that no male athletes would enter the female category…. That had worked so well in the past, hasn’t it?

And of course, no need to test for PEDs either. No need to check age, or that a person entering a particular category for people with disabilities fits that criteria either.

In fact, let’s abandon all testing and all people are trusted to enter the appropriate protected sports category that they feel they fit.

Or… do some people have such contempt for female people that they would shame any female athlete who advocated for sex screening because they are obviously the ones with the problem.

I haven't noticed people getting onto their high horses in opposition to drugs testing, it's true.

Yep I'd rather a cheek swab than pissing in front of the drug testers like sports people have to do.

Yes, there is. Because it might happen, so nail down the criteria. All risk assessments gave to do that. You don't just say no one has ever fallen off this roof garden so we won't put a railing up, do you.

Jesus.

And as is often pointed out, sex testing is vastly less intrusive than drug-testing, which all elite athletes have to undergo.

There is because it makes the matter clear beyond all doubt and for all time. Saves any further accusation against eg Britney Griner of being in the wrong game. And why grope around in the dark if there is a perfectly good flashlight available?

Difficulty minuscule, cost minimal, and in any case, why not? Unless it is to be not-done in order to facilitate cheating at some later date, and I'm sure nobody wants that.

No need to go to the fuss of testing either is there?

There’s not much in it, pretty close.

Yes.

No need to worry about offending any current players if there are no male people in the female competition.

Exactly , so no need to kick up a fuss about being tested if you've got nothing to hide.

If there aren't any males present, there doesn't appear to be a problem to solve never mind it being essential.

I agree with most of this, SRY screenings at 15, Griner is female, and unlikely that there are males at present. The point is that there could be, so the screenings are essential amd codifying needs to follow.

Kanter is merely testing the point.

I am totally in favour of SRY screening.
It should be brought in to all female sport ideally at about age 15
(so any 'surprises' are private)

I have no idea why the WNBA are being so dumb about Kanter

I think its highly unlikely that there are male players in the WNBA at present.
Griner is the one everybody mentions, but she is female.

Name the dopers in the WNBA?

That's right. We still have rules against doping though. We are still proactive with rules and regulations even if they may not be needed.

This 'name them' is an irrelevant and desperate and pitiful attempt at an argument. And if it hasn't happened so far, what is the big deal about being proactive and putting in safeguards? And considering that it always could happen and has happened at college level....

name ...
if they are top end the IOC will ban them
if not, the WNBA should

Can always tell...