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6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft

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LesbianNana · 07/08/2026 23:58

I can’t wait to see who drafts my girl Enes Kanter Freedom. 😂

In a video, the former New York Knicks and Boston Celtics star said: 'After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I’m officially declaring myself a @WNBA prospect.

'If simply declaring who you are is all that’s required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA.

'My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA’s eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027.”

”See you at training camp.”

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

Former NBA star officially declares for WNBA Draft amid trans debate

Kanter, who played in the NBA for 11 seasons, shared the announcement on social media on Friday afternoon amid the ongoing debate around transgender inclusion in sports.

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

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GrimDamnFanjo · 09/08/2026 01:08

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2026 09:27

If it's OK for Veronica Ivy (currently cheating women out of places in Canadian golf) it must also be good for Enes Kanter Freedom.

https://www.golfcanada.ca/articles/team-british-columbia-wins-third-straight-margaret-todd-trophy-at-the-2026-canadian-womens-mid-amateur-championship/

What! Has Verònica given up on cycling?!

Mmmnotsure · 09/08/2026 01:02

That Royce White interview. 😄 It works so well with the questions being posed to him.

How do you think the women players in the WNBA will feel about this?
Oh, I think they’re going to have nightmares, as they should. I’m 260/265 lbs, 6 foot 8…

If you make it to the WNBA do you plan to use the women’s locker room and all that other stuff?
I mean, of course. I don’t want to be discriminated against. I mean, come on - why wouldn’t I use the women’s locker room?

What happens if you go undrafted and no one signs you, though?
Oh, well then I have to file a discrimination lawsuit, right? I mean, that’s ridiculous. We’re going to have to have a huge legal battle about discrimination if I can’t play.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 08/08/2026 23:29

SirChenjins · 08/08/2026 20:23

But, but - it's so nuanced and complex. How on earth will they be able to work out who should participate in the women's league when there are men on this planet to accommodate?

#sadtimes.

Of course, what they <really> mean, is that they're getting together to try and thrash out what/who women are while simultaneously creating a definition where anyone can come along and redefine things.
Is this another Me Too movement?
Women, and certain men saying "me too"?

allthemind · 08/08/2026 22:11

YOU GO GURLS - SLAY

I've been pissing myself for the past 24hrs.

This is the way.

murasaki · 08/08/2026 21:24

fromorbit · 08/08/2026 20:30

Royce White

I haven't even been publicly trans for 72 hours and I'm already getting so much hate.

I just want to hoop with my girls in my feminine era! Why can't y'all be happy for me?

This made me laugh out loud in an incredibly unfeminine way.

He's clearly a better woman than I am!

Boiledbeetle · 08/08/2026 20:54

Waitwhat23 · 08/08/2026 09:29

The TRA meltdowns are being met with a shrug and 'it's your rules'.

It's glorious.

Delicious!

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HousePlantEmergency · 08/08/2026 20:45

"I'm a young Black, hopefully United States Senator that would like a fair chance to participate as a sometimes-identifying-as-a-transgender-woman athlete,"

White's announcement came hours after Kanter Freedom's

I just love it.

"Enes has now said she's a woman," Riley Gaines wrote on X. "If (ESPN) covers this (unlikely), and doesn't refer to Enese as the beautiful woman she is, then they're invalidating her entire existence. Essentially equivalent to genocide."

😂😂😂😂

Surely this is going to grind to a halt now.
It's all so blindingly absurd.

SirChenjins · 08/08/2026 20:41

fromorbit · 08/08/2026 20:36

I know right.

The WBNA has been going for thirty years since 1996.

It is worth 5.4 billion.

It has had countless games with thousands of players involved.

Yet with all that no-one has ever known what a woman is in Women's basketball. This a TOUGH question. Glad they will sort it soon. Hope there plenty of men in the meeting no way they can work it out without male input.

Well quite. If they want to know how to take forward the women's game they have to ask the men for their manly advice. This issue is simply too complex for women to work out by themselves.

fromorbit · 08/08/2026 20:36

SirChenjins · 08/08/2026 20:23

But, but - it's so nuanced and complex. How on earth will they be able to work out who should participate in the women's league when there are men on this planet to accommodate?

#sadtimes.

I know right.

The WBNA has been going for thirty years since 1996.

It is worth 5.4 billion.

It has had countless games with thousands of players involved.

Yet with all that no-one has ever known what a woman is in Women's basketball. This a TOUGH question. Glad they will sort it soon. Hope there plenty of men in the meeting no way they can work it out without male input.

fromorbit · 08/08/2026 20:30

Royce White

I haven't even been publicly trans for 72 hours and I'm already getting so much hate.

I just want to hoop with my girls in my feminine era! Why can't y'all be happy for me?

SirChenjins · 08/08/2026 20:23

But, but - it's so nuanced and complex. How on earth will they be able to work out who should participate in the women's league when there are men on this planet to accommodate?

#sadtimes.

fromorbit · 08/08/2026 20:18

Alert Thanks to Sophie and the guys aiming to join the WBNA.

WBNA are having a meeting next week to discuss what a woman is.

That is going to be a very special meeting.

Engelbert: WNBA to continue talks about transgender athletes next week

Engelbert wrote that the league will "always approach this topic thoughtfully, respectfully, and in alignment with the longstanding values of our league. Second, our player eligibility rules, unlike the eligibility rules of some other leagues and governing bodies, are collectively bargained. Lastly, preserving the integrity of our game and ensuring fair competition will always remain among the league's highest priorities."

The league's collective bargaining agreement states that "only players who are women are eligible to play in the WNBA," but it does not include any more specific language about gender identity or sex assigned at birth. On Friday, two former NBA players, Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White, declared themselves eligible for the WNBA draft, saying they identify as women.

"We recognize that this is a complex and nuanced topic, and we will continue to have important conversations with all of you and the Players Association in the weeks and months ahead," Engelbert said in the memo. "We also plan to convene additional discussions and offer listening sessions for any team leaders who would like to participate. Your perspectives and feedback are invaluable, and I appreciate those who have already reached out to share their thoughts."

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49561324/engelbert-wnba-continue-transgender-discussion

Engelbert: WNBA to continue talks about transgender athletes next week

WNBA commissioner Cathy Engelbert sent a memo to teams that addresses ongoing discussions around transgender athletes in women's basketball.

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49561324/engelbert-wnba-continue-transgender-discussion

singthing · 08/08/2026 19:52

Completely support him, I mean her.

All the other draftees just need to train harder, right?

AsHot · 08/08/2026 19:26

I look forward to seeing her!

LesbianNana · 08/08/2026 19:01

Oor Soph just wants the rules followed, is all. I love her side-eye, by the way.

It seems like lovely Enisha has all the bases covered. 🤷‍♀️

And with the recent salary increases the WNBA has seen, it seems like a great career move for the lass during his retirement from the NBA.

The NBA-to-WNBA pipeline: because apparently retirement is no reason to stop playing professionally.

'I know my presence on the court will stir up strong opinions. I am definitely not here to mock, make fun of, or disrespect any community or personal choices.

I’m simply asking that the current rules be applied equally to everyone - the rules that represent the very values many WNBA players and coaches have publicly advocated for.
'My team and I are prepared to ensure these guidelines are applied equally, consistently, and without exception, and I look forward to the #WNBA honoring its stated principles.

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Igmum · 08/08/2026 18:34

Good lads. And ironic that they’re doing it just as all the women’s coaches and officials are saying that they would LOVE to have TiMs on their teams 🤦‍♀️. It’s telling that they’re both retired players but even so this could be a bit of a Spartacus moment. Imagine EVERY retired NBA player opting for WNBA.

Now come on WNBA, change the rules.

Imdunfer · 08/08/2026 18:20

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/08/2026 11:37

off topic, but jesus, the size of him. blimey

He's bottom end of the average height range for the position he plays, it just goes to show how completely ridiculous it would be for him to play against women if he decided he was trans.

The first trans person I met was a huge hockey player, way, way bigger than an average man. They had to ask him to voluntarily withdraw from the women's team and to be fair to him he did. Though how he ever thought it was reasonable to play for a women's team in the first place completely escaped me.

Imdunfer · 08/08/2026 18:12

AlecTrevelyan006 · 08/08/2026 17:12

The WBNA have now issued a statement. I've no doubt that they will try everything to wriggle out of not accepting any of the guys that are putting themselves forward to play - probably accuse them of not being 'true trans' or some such

But they aren't protecting women's sports unless they believe that men can change sex.

SinnerBoy · 08/08/2026 18:10

He's going to get the full on female experience, if he's recruited. A massive pay cut...

SirChenjins · 08/08/2026 18:09

BettyFilous · 08/08/2026 17:40

I see fairness isn’t mentioned in the WNBPA statement with their other lofty aims.

Even if it had been mentioned, we know they would have meant fairness to men, not women.

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/08/2026 18:01

AlecTrevelyan006 · 08/08/2026 17:12

The WBNA have now issued a statement. I've no doubt that they will try everything to wriggle out of not accepting any of the guys that are putting themselves forward to play - probably accuse them of not being 'true trans' or some such

Such a po-faced statement by WNBA 🙄

murasaki · 08/08/2026 17:54

BettyFilous · 08/08/2026 17:40

I see fairness isn’t mentioned in the WNBPA statement with their other lofty aims.

Indeed. In their rush for 'equality' they've forgotten equity.

BettyFilous · 08/08/2026 17:40

I see fairness isn’t mentioned in the WNBPA statement with their other lofty aims.

nicepotoftea · 08/08/2026 17:32

The other thing they need to do is confirm that gender non conforming men are welcome in their league.

murasaki · 08/08/2026 17:26

Inclusion of men bar Enes, obviously. Go Enes, fight for your rights!

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