Bash Back (again). How are they not proscribed as terrorists?

It was paint... I hasten to add that we have our rights because brave women threatened - and did - much worse.

Thanks Bridget and well done to the London Assembly (why am I not surprised that Sadiq Khan is MIA?). Now, Metropolitan Police, where are you 🔎?

Haven't seen the full statement posted here yet, so...

The London Assembly have issued a statement, condemning Bash Back:

https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/london-assembly-press-releases/calls-action-against-political-violence-and-intimidation

Thanks to @Lalgarh for bringing this to my attention on the Polycule thread. Apparently not going down well in some corners of Bluesky.

The problem is that too many offical bodies seem to have no difficulty handling any act of dissorder unless it's trans related. Over and over they get away with threats and vandelism while no one intervenes. It makes you wonder why that would be.

Oh they will argue it, they will🙄
That's why I channelled my inner Thomas Aquinas and called BS on their attempted 'justification' for violence

They will argue it, though. In their minds they are the most oppressed people who ever lived, regardless of any evidence to the contrary.

The suffragettes were not regarded as heroic by the police at the time, they were imprisoned and tortured - with the approval of a lot of society, at the time.

I think the key issue is one of proportionality : is the cause significant enough, are the harms caused against the protesting group provable from historical evidence and significant, and have non-violent efforts been attempted before turning to violence - that's just my own off-the-top-of-my-head test of proportionality of political violence.

My own elders took part, reluctantly but bravely, in a violent rebellion against the centuries-long occupation of my country - centuries of oppression, murder, starvation, ethnic cleansing, religious discrimination, grinding poverty, cultural eradication - the list goes on and on. Millions of people had suffered and died. Peaceful and parliamentary resistance had been ignored. The status quo was unsupportable.

The suffragette cause was that one-half of humanity was excluded from full citizenship and the protection of the law, and centuries of peaceful and parliamentary methods had been ignored. The status quo was unsupportable.

Turning now to the transgender movement - where is the denial of civil rights? where are the decades, centuries of brutal oppression? where is the evidence of decades, centuries of peaceful protest which has been ignored? What is unsupportable about the status quo where transpeople have exactly the same rights as everybody else?

How can the likes of BashBack claim that their violence has the justification of proportionality?

I said earlier that one would hope that Bash Back were being watched, under the Left-Wing, Anarchist and Single-Issue Terrorism (LASIT) category.

More broadly, one would hope that counter terrorism police are paying attention to that category. But are they?

Very interesting story on the BBC News website.

An attack Nigel Farage says was made on his home in April 2025 is now being reinvestigated by counter terrorism police investigating the killing of Ann Widdecombe.

Interesting for two reasons.

One, the link with Ann Widdecombe's murder.

Two, did the police close the Farage case because he is a right-wing figure? (I can't stand Farage personally but half-arsing an investigation into an attack on someone because of their political views is beyond the pale.)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62qrvd9303o

If people support the cause they will usually turn a blind eye. The suffragettes are regarded as heroic despite attempting terror attacks akin to the Manchester Arena bombing.

Who knows, but I really hope that BB are being closely monitored.

when will we know what the motive was and if it was linked to BB?

Sorry, usual wait for image to be approved follows.

I saw this comment on another forum discussing Ann Widdecombe's murder and the suspect. I don't use Bluesky or Twitter so have no idea if the comment is true. Does anybody know if accounts did go missing?

Look at how much push-back there has been against the proscription of Palestine Action who have a very similar training manual and promotion of hammer use (they have a section on how to purchase your hammer with cash so it can't be traced). I would expect there's a lot of crossover in membership too.

Palestine Action have caused millions of pounds in damage to property, including attacks on our military assets, they also were involved in an attack where a police officer had her spine fractured with a sledgehammer. And yet they still have masses of support and loads of gullible idiots willing to get themselves arrested for supporting them.

I don't think the govt would be able to proscribe Bash Back for far lesser attacks, however threatening.

Surely it's incitement to violence. How can it not be? Even if they're not explicitly inciting violence against named individuals (I don't know whether they are or not), the whole tone seems so aggressive.

Exactly.

That's what usually happens when women are under threat.

I worry that someone will get hurt before the authorities see fit to take any action.

On the surface, it looks as if Stephenson's office has 'just' been hit with paint. So that makes it easy to minimise. (see this thread already for that nonsense)
But that's part of the tactic.
They are literally called 'Bash back'. They have a hammer in their logo. The website and stated aims are about 'making them afraid.'
It's all about intimidation but then throwing hands up all innocent when attention turns to them, because they supposedly haven't done anything that serious.
It's like a domestic abuser punching a hole in the wall next to his wife's head. He didn't actually hit her. So what's she complaining about?
The intimidation tactics on their own are enough, but violent men escalate. They start with what they can get away with, minimising their own behaviour to escape the consequences, and when they do, they increase the stakes.
Yes, they're bozos and ludicrous, but their behaviour is already abusive and intimidating and I can't see them leaving it at this level if they keep getting away with it. I can only hope that the police are paying attention.

Was it Bash Back who were responsible for the attack on Il Portico restaurant in London, after JKR and Suzanne Moore went to the sister restaurant Pino for a charity fundraiser.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/jk-rowling-pino-portico-italian-restaurant-london-attacked-b1004093.html#comments-area

You would hope they were being watched, under the Left-Wing, Anarchist and Single-Issue Terrorism (LASIT) category.

You would hope...

I'd prefer it if they nipped them in the bud now, justice must be seen to be done or people loose faith in justice. There are too many eyes on these ASBO genderists now for them to let it continue unchallenged.

Given how obvious and findable they are - there is no way the authorities are just ignoring them. They know who they are and they are watching them for when they significantly overstep and / or bring others into the fold.