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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Covent Garden - why don't I trust the reporting ?

422 replies

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 15:35

A woman stabbing four men ?

Or am I nasty and old ?

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SodThisHeadache · 06/08/2026 18:12

Oh I am an idiot. Of course parody

SodThisHeadache · 06/08/2026 18:11

@moto748e

Whaaaat? Parody?

None of this uncertainty would be happening if the media hadn't been lying to us for years about the sex of serious male criminals. And we're the bad guys.

moto748e · 06/08/2026 18:01

The Rotherham Bugle has a hot take!

We’ve just been made party to a transcript of a conversation between the arresting officer at the stabbing incident in Covent Garden yesterday and superiors back at base.
Officer: “Okay we’ve got them under arrest.”
Base.: “Great, the media are going to be all over this, what can you tell me?”
Officer: “Well, the good news is they’re white.”
Base: “Lovely, we’ll get that out…we’ve arrested a white man…”
Officer: “It’s not a man as such.”
Base: “Okay no problem, I’ll put we’ve arrested a white woman.”
Officer: “Ahh…”
Base: “What?”
Officer: “They’re dressed as a women, but I’m pretty sure it’s a fella…or at least it was.”
Base: “Shit that’s complicated…okay look, we’ll forget the colour and just say they’ve got mental health issues. Just so long as nobody thinks it’s a Muslim or a migrant.

BunnyBunbunbun · 06/08/2026 17:46

The Telegraph has a video of the arrest. Looks like a woman to me. I wish people wouldn't make stuff up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/05/three-people-injured-in-covent-garden-stabbing/

tommyhoundmum · 06/08/2026 17:35

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 15:59

Bear in mind, I would summarily execute litter louts. And if you are caught using a phone driving you get the choice of phone or car to be crushed.

or themselves

Jane379 · 06/08/2026 17:28

Seriestwo · 06/08/2026 11:22

Locals say she is an unwell woman from Romania who has been around the area and the hostel for a long time. She was easily brought down by the police.

apparently 47, so of an age when Romania was in dire straits with people surrendering their babies to orphanages because they couldn’t afford to feed them. And those places did nothing more than feed the babies. All of whom will have lifelong and significant consequences of trauma.

So, of the rumours are true she’s got a significant history of mental illness, is homeless, has addictions and is steadily living in this area with locals being aware of her sufficiently to recognise her.

and she really likes her vape.

the point on this thread isn’t whether the perpetrator who stabbed four men was a woman - it is that thousands of commenters do not trust the bbc to accurately report a multiple stabbing in the middle of the day I the. Middle of our capital city. That’s a problem.

That sounds sadly plausible. Ceaucescu's legacy damaged huge numbers of people...

I hope she can be helped.

Jane379 · 06/08/2026 17:22

YesterdaysFuture · 05/08/2026 17:10

I was sceptical when they said "woman" because of the endless false articles the media keep putting out. They have headlines like "Woman rapes" etc and show a bearded man underneath. It is the boy who cried wolf, you lie too many times and people stop believing you.

We also have Coulter's Law which is they will immediately say "White British Male" and so when they don't immediately say that, you know that it won't be. We've got the trope of "Welsh Choirboy" now thanks to the media.

In a sense, though, the 'Welsh choirboy' information is useful information. Rudakubana was from a churchgoing Christian family, and spent his entire life in Wales & England.
Those things were not enough to prevent his descent into evil. And that I important information. His parents did not radicalise him, nor did his church or his school. None of those protective factors were enough.

Victorius19 · 06/08/2026 17:19

How funny... the media don't seem to be reporting that it's actually a man Hmm

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 17:18

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 17:06

It’s a bit French, non?

Well there is that. Bit of a dilemma for the far right to grapple with really. When they've solved that other French bête-noir that is Velcro®.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 17:06

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 16:59

"Nothing binds a community together more than public shaming. Discuss."

Not so sure Mr. Lowe would be in favour of public executions. I mean isn't that Sharia law ? Also hanging needs too much skill. Too short and it takes forever, and time is money. Too long and you need to pay to clean the pit out. If you are going to execute by decapitation then at least do it properly with a guillotine. That way you could charge the condemned extra to lie face down when the mouton falls.

As you can see, I have done some research.

It’s a bit French, non?

Jane379 · 06/08/2026 17:05

MintBird · 06/08/2026 16:44

This. It's not as if she took them on in a boxing ring with a ref and rules to follow. She could have simply slashed unsuspecting men from behind (a "sucker" attack) in a crowd in which case it's easy to injure multiple people before people notice what's going on (reaction and response time) and take action to restrain her.

Exactly.

I don't like the posts saying it wasn't possible or that the men would have been able to fight her off. It wouldn't be OK to question a sexual assault like that, it's not OK for physical either.

I get suspicion about trans but that's different from saying this wasn't possible.

Jane379 · 06/08/2026 17:01

Charlize43 · 05/08/2026 17:51

Some women hate men on a psychotic level. My ex-boss was like this. Every day we'd witness several diatribes directed against the male sex; she was a room counter as well and would make a fuss if there were more male to females present - she'd launch into a loud lecture about the patriarchy. It was endlessly tedious. She only employed women but god help you if you said something nice about your husband... It was like unleashing the kracken!

Of course, she was one of those women who was endlessly 'undressed' and 'sexually harassed' on her journey in on a daily basis, despite looking like a middled aged Rose West - the rest of us would just read Metro or our books on the journey in without incident. She'd always start the day with telling us about this.

'she was one of those women who was endlessly 'undressed' and 'sexually harassed' on her journey in on a daily basis, despite looking like a middled aged Rose West '

  • I don't know about this person specifically, but do you think only young and stereotypically attractive women get sexually harassed?
SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 16:59

Lifeomars · 06/08/2026 16:51

hanging it is then, the rope can be used many times, maybe make it pay to view event and it could be run at a profit . As for the car v phone conundrum, if it's a contract phone and a leased/finaced car then it may help to explore alternative punishment. May I suggest the stocks followed by some street cleaning wearing a high vis jacket saying "I am a text and drive menace"

"Nothing binds a community together more than public shaming. Discuss."

Not so sure Mr. Lowe would be in favour of public executions. I mean isn't that Sharia law ? Also hanging needs too much skill. Too short and it takes forever, and time is money. Too long and you need to pay to clean the pit out. If you are going to execute by decapitation then at least do it properly with a guillotine. That way you could charge the condemned extra to lie face down when the mouton falls.

As you can see, I have done some research.

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murasaki · 06/08/2026 16:54

Lifeomars · 06/08/2026 16:51

hanging it is then, the rope can be used many times, maybe make it pay to view event and it could be run at a profit . As for the car v phone conundrum, if it's a contract phone and a leased/finaced car then it may help to explore alternative punishment. May I suggest the stocks followed by some street cleaning wearing a high vis jacket saying "I am a text and drive menace"

Surely buried alive in landfill. Also pay per view.

Lifeomars · 06/08/2026 16:51

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 16:27

Re the execution of litter louts, would this be by hanging, electric chair or lethal injection?

Whichever is cheapest. I'm not a monster.

Re the choice of car of phone being crushed, phone of course, it's a no brainer given the ease and cost of replacement of a phone v a car.

Depends if you actually own either.

hanging it is then, the rope can be used many times, maybe make it pay to view event and it could be run at a profit . As for the car v phone conundrum, if it's a contract phone and a leased/finaced car then it may help to explore alternative punishment. May I suggest the stocks followed by some street cleaning wearing a high vis jacket saying "I am a text and drive menace"

MintBird · 06/08/2026 16:44

JulietteHasAGun · 05/08/2026 15:39

It’s possible. Crowded place, no warning, perpetrator acts quickly. Could have attacked from behind and just gone from one to another in seconds. Or potentially the last one or two could have defensive wounds while disarming her.

This. It's not as if she took them on in a boxing ring with a ref and rules to follow. She could have simply slashed unsuspecting men from behind (a "sucker" attack) in a crowd in which case it's easy to injure multiple people before people notice what's going on (reaction and response time) and take action to restrain her.

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 16:44

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 16:36

Exactly Jane, you could be his campaign manager.

Free school meals ?

Tax the rich so we can all feel like we live in the worlds 6th wealthiest country ?

I can't see us getting on for long.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 16:37

He is a fan of the death penalty and wants it reinstated so I doubt he’d take much convincing for litter louts.

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 16:36

RoyalCorgi · 06/08/2026 16:34

Let's explain it in really simple terms for the hard of understanding:

  1. The overwhelming majority of violent attacks, particularly those that take place in public spaces, are carried out by men.
  2. For a woman to carry out such an attack is extremely unusual.
  3. The media has a record of telling us that a particular act of violence or sexual violence has been carried out by a woman when it has, in fact, been carried out by a man.
  4. In other words, the media frequently lies to us about the sex of an offender.
  5. Therefore, when the media tells us that an attack has been carried out by a woman, the instinctive reaction of many people is to wonder if the media is lying.

Is that really that difficult to grasp? Is there anything I can do to make it easier for you?

BLOCK CAPITALS ?

IN BOLD ?

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BettyBooper · 06/08/2026 16:36

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 16:35

He's just playing at it though. No mention of summary justice. Typical snowflake. Talks tough, but that's all.

😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 16:36

Exactly Jane, you could be his campaign manager.

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2026 16:35

BettyBooper · 06/08/2026 16:28

RL is very cross about littering.

Me too, as it happens!

He's just playing at it though. No mention of summary justice. Typical snowflake. Talks tough, but that's all.

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RoyalCorgi · 06/08/2026 16:34

AStonedRose · 06/08/2026 14:49

This thread is shocking.

This is the exact cognate of other parts of the hard right presuming every assault or rape is probably committed by a Muslim. Deliberately stoking up of fear.

any yes, I’ve read the thread and understand the flimsy defence of ‘but trans people made us do it’. As some of the more sensible regulars here have recognised, it doesn’t wash.

its possible to think people can’t change biological sex, that males shouldn’t be in women’s prisons, etc (and I think both those things) without resorting to this level of casual hatred

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Let's explain it in really simple terms for the hard of understanding:

  1. The overwhelming majority of violent attacks, particularly those that take place in public spaces, are carried out by men.
  2. For a woman to carry out such an attack is extremely unusual.
  3. The media has a record of telling us that a particular act of violence or sexual violence has been carried out by a woman when it has, in fact, been carried out by a man.
  4. In other words, the media frequently lies to us about the sex of an offender.
  5. Therefore, when the media tells us that an attack has been carried out by a woman, the instinctive reaction of many people is to wonder if the media is lying.

Is that really that difficult to grasp? Is there anything I can do to make it easier for you?