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Pissed you can't piss in peace

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IntolerantOfIntolerance · 05/08/2026 13:30

Being trans right now is to be institutionally discriminated against. It’s having to worry about where and when you can go to the loo. Which is fucking outrageous. That this should happen under a so called Labour government is unforgivable.

Meanwhile we stagger on. If you want backup using a toilet I’m yours. I’ll walk into the ladies with you and tell people to back the fuck off if I have to. I will walk into the men’s too if I have to, so everyone is scandalised at me while you get a chance to sneak in and have a piss in peace. The situation is ludicrous - what I can do is a drop in the ocean, but drop I will.

Maybe I need to print myself a t-shirt that says fighting for the freedom to piss in peace. I don’t know. The world is on fire both metaphorically and literally, yet of all the things one could do a big chunk of people have chosen to gang up on a vulnerable minority. It’s like watching people dig their own graves.

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nicepotoftea · 05/08/2026 22:31

Helleofabore · 05/08/2026 21:57

Here is Willoughby announcing he will be using the female toilets.

https://x.com/womenoscotland/status/2085080091088822555?s=46

I wonder what the plan is? Keep using women's toilets until somebody asks him to leave, and then do what? It seems like a very precarious way to live. Would seem far more sensible to campaign for the certainty of additional unisex provision.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 05/08/2026 22:14

Helleofabore · 05/08/2026 21:57

Here is Willoughby announcing he will be using the female toilets.

https://x.com/womenoscotland/status/2085080091088822555?s=46

"the shunning process" 😂

Well, he's clearly put A LOT of thought into that little X fantasy of his

SodThisHeadache · 05/08/2026 21:53

I'm pissed off the new women's toilets at Kew Gardens cafe have floor to ceiling doors. I wonder if it's because they know men will used them and will never be challenged by Kew 'queering plants' Gardens.

I am pissed off the Lightsight in London rebuilt their mens and women's toilets, to join the two rooms together, with shared sinks. The whole thing is down a corridor with two doors between it and the lobby/shop. And because they know there are privacy issues with mixed sex provision, they've made the doors floor to ceiling, making it easy to push a woman or child into a cubicle to assault them, and making it harder to know if someone's ill in there.
And because they did this in 2023, it's not even illegal AFAIK.

Helleofabore · 05/08/2026 21:34

Maybe we should post all the men who are posting videos or images of them either telling women they are going to keep using the female single sex toilets in the UK in defiance of the law or posting selfies of them in there.

Just so OP knows who they need to stop at the door so that female people can have female single sex provisions without male people entering.

Or … to assure OP that if all these male people turned their attention to campaigning for male toilets to be more inclusive like a ‘you can pee next me’ campaign, there would be plenty of social media influencers to ask to campaign…

Here was one at Channel 5.

https://x.com/treesey/status/2085078452995080673?s=46

Imagine opening organisations up to complaints when women start showing the evidence that the organisations are failing to provide female single sex spaces … maybe these male people haven’t really thought this through…

teresa smith (@treesey) on X

Interesting to see what @channel5_tv executives do about this. Steph was there to appear on @theJeremyVine’s discussion programme. Steph is clearly very angry with the law and so uses women’s facilities to vent a very male rage: by pissing

https://x.com/treesey/status/2085078452995080673?s=46

Keeptoiletssafe · 05/08/2026 21:13

SodThisHeadache · 05/08/2026 20:52

I'm pissed off there aren't enough toilets for women. The older I get the more it pisses me off. I'm pissed off that I have to spend the whole interval at the theatre queuing for the loo when the men swan in and out and have enough time for a G&T.

Edited to add: I'm pissed off that us women all stand stoically in these queues, probably all pissed off but powerless to do anything about it.

Edited

For equality, it has been worked out that if you have the same number of women and men, women should have twice as many toilets. Men obviously need cubicles but urinals can count as a toilet towards their 1/3 of the provision.

Women have greater biological needs and take longer per visit. (They also are more likely to wash their hands).

If you have many universal designs (unisex) only (even with female and/or male pictograms), you have to have 25% more toilets in total because the turnover time is longer as people are waiting for you to wash and dry hands.

All the calculations have been worked out. Network Rail had a few pages in their brochure discussing this for different stations.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 05/08/2026 20:56

Dobeebeedah · 05/08/2026 20:53

Why do people want to change their gender? Babies born with both genders or their gender is not apparent have a gender assigned during an operation when very young. If that gender is deemed inappropriate at puberty then obviously there has to be some help.

Gender is assigned in your DNA. That is IT. You live with that because that is who you REALLY are. Your sexual preferences are precisely that "a preference".

You mean sex. SEX. It's not a dirty word.

backformoreofthesame · 05/08/2026 20:53

A problem made worse if the men decide it’s their right to swan into the ladies also , meaning there is no ladies just two sets of gents loos

Dobeebeedah · 05/08/2026 20:53

Why do people want to change their gender? Babies born with both genders or their gender is not apparent have a gender assigned during an operation when very young. If that gender is deemed inappropriate at puberty then obviously there has to be some help.

Gender is assigned in your DNA. That is IT. You live with that because that is who you REALLY are. Your sexual preferences are precisely that "a preference".

SodThisHeadache · 05/08/2026 20:52

I'm pissed off there aren't enough toilets for women. The older I get the more it pisses me off. I'm pissed off that I have to spend the whole interval at the theatre queuing for the loo when the men swan in and out and have enough time for a G&T.

Edited to add: I'm pissed off that us women all stand stoically in these queues, probably all pissed off but powerless to do anything about it.

backformoreofthesame · 05/08/2026 20:49

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/08/2026 20:42

Please do print yourself that “fighting for the freedom to piss in peace” t shirt op. Everyone else will piss themselves laughing.

Surely a reason to say please do. The world needs a smile and a laugh these days

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/08/2026 20:42

Please do print yourself that “fighting for the freedom to piss in peace” t shirt op. Everyone else will piss themselves laughing.

akkakk · 05/08/2026 20:41

It’s having to worry about where and when you can go to the loo. Which is fucking outrageous

we can help you not worry - just use the correct loo - if born a boy then it is the loo for men, if born a girl, then use the loo for women - not complicated and I am sure you will be able to find an adult to help you if you are not certain…

as a 100% bloke, I can assure you (I assume you are one of those blokes pretending to be a woman?) that I have always been able to find a chaps’ loos wherever I go… and amazingly no one has ever paid any attention inside - wear whatever you like, come in, pee, wash hands, leave - it is a fairly standard routine for most folks who don’t care how other men present… despite all the claims, there is no evidence of any related issues, so you don't have to worry, just continue to use the loos you should always have been using…

you have been using the correct loos haven’t you?! this is nothing new, it has been clear law since 2010, and in fact for decades before…

so, no worries - blokes in the gents and women to the ladies

Wishesandhorses · 05/08/2026 20:34

IntolerantOfIntolerance · 05/08/2026 13:30

Being trans right now is to be institutionally discriminated against. It’s having to worry about where and when you can go to the loo. Which is fucking outrageous. That this should happen under a so called Labour government is unforgivable.

Meanwhile we stagger on. If you want backup using a toilet I’m yours. I’ll walk into the ladies with you and tell people to back the fuck off if I have to. I will walk into the men’s too if I have to, so everyone is scandalised at me while you get a chance to sneak in and have a piss in peace. The situation is ludicrous - what I can do is a drop in the ocean, but drop I will.

Maybe I need to print myself a t-shirt that says fighting for the freedom to piss in peace. I don’t know. The world is on fire both metaphorically and literally, yet of all the things one could do a big chunk of people have chosen to gang up on a vulnerable minority. It’s like watching people dig their own graves.

Being a woman who can't use a mixed sex space is also to be institutionally discriminated against. Obviously. They not only have to worry about where and when they can go to the loo, many have had to stop going into them at all because of men.

If you're 'intolerant of intolerance' start there. Transactivists really have to start getting their heads around not everything is for them, and not everything is about them. Other people have rights too.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 05/08/2026 20:30

As a man of 62 (sigh...), I know <one thing> about my kind.
No man who needs to go will hesitate if the men's loo is available.
The very fact that specimens like the OT claim their male bodies <can't> use the male loo, and thus it's cruel and bigoted to make them use it, is really overcompensating to make a point.

Keeptoiletssafe · 05/08/2026 20:19

nicepotoftea · 05/08/2026 20:18

Yes, there might have been a point 30 years ago when 'trans' was assumed to mean 'transexual', but that ship has sailed, largely at the behest of organisations like Stonewall.

I don't think the question is even about men with the PC of Gender Reassignment, because there is no way of knowing what is going on in somebody's head.

The only practical options are mixed sex facilities that include everyone or single sex facilities that exclude men. You can make the case for either, but 'single sex facilities that include people of the opposite sex if they want to use them' is just not possible in this Galaxy.

Mixed sex facilities are safest for healthy men, in terms of toilets.

Helleofabore · 05/08/2026 20:19

GrumpyPanda · 05/08/2026 20:03

@KG74

But moreover, there is no sense in creating division where statistics do not back up any of the widespread danger claims that are being touted around.

Truer words never were spoken. There's no indication trans people are in danger to life and limb (other than to their ego) using the facilities appropriate to their sex.

This is true.

The often misinformed stats about ‘violence increasing’ trans people experience is not actually physical violence as such, thank goodness. It was nchi driving those stats up.

it will be interesting to look at next years crime survey if the pollsters remove those incidents.

nicepotoftea · 05/08/2026 20:18

Pingponghavoc · 05/08/2026 20:09

Its no point talking about transexuals. There is no definition of trans that includes only transexuals.

In the EqA the PC of GR includes men who intend to transition, the GRA requires a man to have a diagnosis and 'female' id for two years.

When organising spaces, its these men we have to consider. Will the space still be fit for purpose if these men use the female only spaces?

Take a gym. The owners recognise that they have fewer women attend than expected. So they organise female only session and/or female only changing rooms and toilets.

If men protected under the PC of GR, or men with a GRC can also use the sessions or facilities, will women continue to use the space?

The op is admitting that these men do stand out because why else would they need a body guard?

Edited

Yes, there might have been a point 30 years ago when 'trans' was assumed to mean 'transexual', but that ship has sailed, largely at the behest of organisations like Stonewall.

I don't think the question is even about men with the PC of Gender Reassignment, because there is no way of knowing what is going on in somebody's head.

The only practical options are mixed sex facilities that include everyone or single sex facilities that exclude men. You can make the case for either, but 'single sex facilities that include people of the opposite sex if they want to use them' is just not possible in this Galaxy.

Palomiino · 05/08/2026 20:17

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 05/08/2026 19:56

I find it strange that so many of these men who want to be women clearly demonstrate that they actually hate women. Presumably because we’re the real deal.

They are misogynists and they want to dominate.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 05/08/2026 20:16

Keeptoiletssafe · 05/08/2026 19:50

Or even Ian Bullock or Kurtis Mawson. Both men entered women’s toilets and claimed they were transwomen for the duration they were in the women’s toilets.

Presumably Paula Stanton would be easy to recognise as dangerous, when Stanton made eye contact with them while masturbating.

https://www.barryanddistrictnews.co.uk/news/26196742.transgender-barry-woman-masturbated-front-nurses/?ref=ed_direct

Transgender woman masturbated in front of hospital nurses

A Barry transgender woman masturbated in front of shocked staff at the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff

https://www.barryanddistrictnews.co.uk/news/26196742.transgender-barry-woman-masturbated-front-nurses/?ref=ed_direct

BettyBooper · 05/08/2026 20:13

It's so interesting that the same group who (allegedly) just wants to piss in peace are very happy to piss all over the place publicly when they don't get what they want.

Hmmm. Funny that.

How anyone falls for this utter BS is beyond me...

backformoreofthesame · 05/08/2026 20:09

Oh I love it!

the fact that OP can’t see how a stranger reading that wouldn’t be able to judge if it was a woman or a transgender person who was writing

they can’t see the duplicity of their argument

nice one

Pingponghavoc · 05/08/2026 20:09

Its no point talking about transexuals. There is no definition of trans that includes only transexuals.

In the EqA the PC of GR includes men who intend to transition, the GRA requires a man to have a diagnosis and 'female' id for two years.

When organising spaces, its these men we have to consider. Will the space still be fit for purpose if these men use the female only spaces?

Take a gym. The owners recognise that they have fewer women attend than expected. So they organise female only session and/or female only changing rooms and toilets.

If men protected under the PC of GR, or men with a GRC can also use the sessions or facilities, will women continue to use the space?

The op is admitting that these men do stand out because why else would they need a body guard?

GrumpyPanda · 05/08/2026 20:03

@KG74

But moreover, there is no sense in creating division where statistics do not back up any of the widespread danger claims that are being touted around.

Truer words never were spoken. There's no indication trans people are in danger to life and limb (other than to their ego) using the facilities appropriate to their sex.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 05/08/2026 19:56

I find it strange that so many of these men who want to be women clearly demonstrate that they actually hate women. Presumably because we’re the real deal.