'Rape list' part of misogyny girls face at school

I wish I could say I'm shocked but I'm not.
Maybe Dr Blower and his team should get into schools and start sessions for the boys in how not to become abusive, sexually harrassing misogynists.
It's as bad now as when I was at school.

The world’s gone to shit.

One of the saddest things I’ve heard: I was in a pub a few years ago and a family came in. Mum, dad and a couple of young kids maybe aged 2 & 4. They sat down and the dad was on his phone and the little girl piped up ‘Is daddy looking at naughty pictures of women again’!

The internet is ruining men and, ultimately, it’s women and children paying the price.

I was on the bus the other day and a group of teenagers got on. As they were going up the stairs one of the boys said to the girl who was ahead of him and a bit higher on the stairs, something about "stick my finger up your bumhole". I thought, WTF, is this what girls have to put up with now? Does this pass for banter? They all looked to be friends, have they just normalised this crap?

Maybe it could be to do with their religion or culture. What's the demographics up those parts?

True enough, we haven't had to deal with strangulation or anal as the 'norm'. Thank fuck. But I would say the abuse is just as frequent as it ever was. Every woman I know my age had the same thing throughout teens and twenties, regular abuse so much so that we regarded it as normal. The 13/14 yo thing I described was just the beginning. We didn't even feel that 'traumatised' by it, not on the face of it. It's only dawned on me later what the long term effect was.

93% White British and 93% Christian/no religion in teenage boys.

Bloody hell. What are their communities saying?

Not seen anybody ask the Bishops of Jarrow and Hexham & Newcastle for details of what they are doing in their communities to educate their young males, tbh. Or Councillor Paul Mackings (Reform) about how he can influence these boys to step away from their historic culture of misogyny and abuse and integrate.

It's ingrained in their culture. We should restrict their movement and have them wear some sort of visible identification so we know it's one of them

Is it anything to do with intelligence? I left school in 1975 and I was in the "A" stream. In my class the interaction between boys and girls was pretty good, very respectful, with a few going out with each other and we socialised at school discos and dances. The "B" stream was quite different, the school bullies were in that class, with a lot of detentions, fighting (including one where the PE teacher was attacked with a cricket bat), also one guy was expelled for sexually assaulting a girl.
The added problem today, is the availability of violent porn, plus the Andrew Tate effect and as others have said the lack of a responsible father figure.

I don't think so. Places like Oxbridge have been rife with misogynistic private educated rugby boys for generations. I think it's cultural; values shared by their community as a whole.

Attitudes towards girls are women are vile in this country.
I took my rapist to court in 2024 and amongst the other shit thrown at me me by his female defence lawyer was.. Can you read to the court what you were wearing that night.. A pair of hot pants and a cami top (historic case I was a teenager) She then actually asked me.. Can you not see how that might not be confusing for men?!?
Finger marks around my neck, footprints on my stomach and back, restraint cuts around my arms.. He was found not guilty.

My son went to school with a boy whose dad was a defence lawyer. I googled him and it seemed like they gave him all the rape and SA cases against men. He won a fair few of them.

The family were seen as a nice, well to do family, I would never socialise with them and didn't let my son round theirs. How can you be married to man who chooses to defend rapists who can pay him enough.

I get they’re just doing there job but Jesus.. It’s selling your soul to the devil as far as I’m concerned.
I really (naively) wasn’t expecting to have to try and defend such misogynistic crap. From reporting to the police until getting the verdict I come across some truly disturbing comments and opinions, we really do have a long way to go in this world when it comes to protecting girls and women.

I’m so sorry this happened to you. A family member (teenager) was raped by her boyfriend. She decided not to take it to the police though because the likelihood of a win is minuscule - whereas the likelihood of her being totally traumatised by the experience is very high.

I can understand that, we shouldn’t have to feel this way, I’m so sorry that happened to her 💐

Yeah I hadn’t prepared myself for it. It was awful but I’m still here to tell the tale, I try very hard to not let it destroy me.

Every institution in this country - schools, the army, football clubs, political parties, workplaces - needs to make it crystal clear to boys and men, girls and women, that there is a ZERO TOLERANCE attitude to misogyny, harassment and sexual assault. One strike and you’re out. If you’re caught ‘joking’ about a rape list, you’re expelled/sacked. If you witness it and don’t report it, you’re in trouble too.

It won’t solve VAWG, of course it won’t. But at the moment we have cultures of impunity.

Don’t give me ‘not all men’ or ‘my son would never’. If they aren’t misogynist pricks they won’t be in trouble, will they?

Too many men and boys have a serious lack of basic human empathy towards women and girls. If it's not about them, they could not care less.

This constant talk about rape has to be porn fuelled. Boys can access sites where women beg to be raped and abused, and they believe this is real. Pornographers have consistently managed to evade censorship and control by claiming 'free speech' but suggesting to boys and men that what women really want is to be raped and thumped is inciting violence, not free speech.

And it is getting worse because the message boys are getting is that rape and sexual assault are not only ok but what women want - it says so on their 'erotic' sites i.e. violent pornography sites.

I know not everyone is a fan of private schools, but getting the opportunity to go to an all girls' school for a few years was a lifeline for me. I was regularly attacked by violent older boys while waiting for the bus home from my secondary state school – and nothing was done about them. It really saddens me that there are predictions that girls' schools (private or state) may cease to exist soon, with so many merging or closing. I think it's so important for girls to have an opportunity to learn away from boys. It would obviously be better if male behaviour changed... but sadly, that seems a long way off.