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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why are some gender critical feminists praising Rod Liddle?

264 replies

Mouldemort · 03/08/2026 16:38

Can anyone give any insight into why gender critical stalwarts such as Kathleen Stock, Julie Bindel and Rosie Duffield are praising Rod Liddle? He was a wife-beating misogynist who argued that it shouldn't be a crime to look at images of child abuse.

It could be they are excusing his behaviour because he was personally nice to them, but honestly I am not sure.

https://x.com/Docstockk/status/2084268019270684830

Kathleen Stock (@Docstockk) on X

Gutted about Rod Liddle, he was a great man. I take huge pride in having been regular contributor to his show, and I appreciated his support for my writing very much. I know full well what the online sisterhood think about this but I don't care in the...

https://x.com/Docstockk/status/2084268019270684830

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SparklyPeaches · 03/08/2026 18:15

I enjoyed his writing. He had the darkest humour and a sharp wit.

I also liked that he could effortlessly wind up the type of joyless and humourless scolds who never stop being outraged about life. Looking at you, OP.

May he rest in peace, and my condolences to his family.

Screamingabdabz · 03/08/2026 18:14

I’m sad he died. He may have been flawed but he was a brilliant writer.

The pieces that have been quoted on here as ‘evidence’ of his wrongs, and anything I ever read that was near the knuckle, was pure working class irony. If you’re not from a WC background you won’t get it.

And like WC people, he could bluntly call out wank-think nonsense, and he did. Hence his GC stance.

RIP

nicepotoftea · 03/08/2026 18:13

Apparently the Guardian thought it was OK to publish. Maybe ask them?

lechiffre55 · 03/08/2026 18:10

It's weird when these threads happen. All sorts of usernames I don't remember ever seeing before on MN just magically pop out of the woodwork. Usually to condemn others.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 03/08/2026 18:09

Weeellokthen · 03/08/2026 17:36

Nobody finds an adult wanting to "shag" a child fucking funny.
Disgusting comment

Did you mean to say "nobody should find an adult [...] fucking funny"?

I don't know what kind of charmed life you'd have to live to literally believe that nobody in the world could find that funny. At a bare minimum, have you stopped to consider that lots of people are out there downloading child abuse imagery, and abusing children for real? Do you genuinely think they get offended by jokes concerning sexual activity with children?

While problems exist in all parts of the world, the United States emerges as a particularly high-risk area. Childlight’s new global index, Into the Light, found high levels of CSAM (child sexual abuse material) hosted there as well as the Netherlands.

Meanwhile, one in nine men in the States (10.9%, equating to almost 14 million men) admitted online sexual offending against children at some point in their lives. Representative surveys found the same said by 7% of men in the UK – equating to 1.8 million offenders – and by 7.5% of men in Australia (nearly 700,000).

Many more across the three countries said they would also seek to commit contact sexual offences against children if they thought it would be kept secret.

https://www.childlight.org/newsroom/over-300-million-children-a-year-are-victims-of-online-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse

Over 300 million children a year are victims of technology-facilitated sexual exploitation and abuse - Childlight

https://www.childlight.org/newsroom/over-300-million-children-a-year-are-victims-of-online-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse

SodThisHeadache · 03/08/2026 18:07

I still don't think people can change sex.

AnAutumnCrow · 03/08/2026 18:06

I think posting endless goading guilt-by-association threads should be banned especially when using a shitty misogynist username.

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 03/08/2026 18:04

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CassOle · 03/08/2026 18:03

Aaah, so it's another "GC feminists said something nice about this bad man, therefore, you must let men who say they are T&HW* in female single-sex spaces, or you will be approving of everything the bad man did/said" post.

*True and honest women.

Sorry OP, people still can't change sex.

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 03/08/2026 17:58

Why is this user name allowed ? I thought bullying was banned?

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 03/08/2026 17:57

civetcat · 03/08/2026 17:07

Marian Keyes' chose the book title 'This Charming Man' because women who had been in abusive relationships with men often described their former partners as charming

Marian Keyes' chose the book title 'This Charming Man' because women who had been in abusive relationships with men often described their former partners as charming

Really? Surely she nicked the title from the Smiths hit?

CorvusPurpureus · 03/08/2026 17:55

Rod Liddle was paid to be a gobshite. That was his job.

Not to write about how kittens are fluffy or a cold glass of beer is delicious or sand feels nice under your toes.

His job was to wind people up by affecting a range of outrageous opinions & being a fairly clever writer.

He came out with some thoroughly unpleasant shit over the years, & also some rather thoughtful pieces.

Anyway, OP, what’s with the username?

BackToLurk · 03/08/2026 17:54

It could be they are excusing his behaviour because he was personally nice to them

No 'could be' about it. Do you always struggle with comprehension?

Edited to clarify there isn't any 'excusing' behaviour in their tweets as far as I can see. Rather they are saying 'nice things' because he was personally nice to them.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:54

Oh, fuck this. Laters, dudes. Have fun!

MissyB1 · 03/08/2026 17:54

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:37

I didn't say I found it funny. Why is it disgusting to say it's a joke?

Errr… now let me see, is it because there’s absolutely nothing fucking funny whatsoever about grown men talking about how they would like to shag school kids?? Most people wouldn’t need that explaining to them….
And presumably you split your sides laughing when he said looking at child porn shouldn’t be illegal?

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:54

OP, you could try making a post about various other men and then come on and tell us off for not condemning them, if you like? Or berate us on here for what other women elsewhere do. I mean it's up to you, there are probably lots of things you could scold us for.

With your hil-arious username.

NotAtMyAge · 03/08/2026 17:53

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 03/08/2026 17:44

Loads of GC women have no standards at all. As long as someone is GC, that’s all that matters to them.

If by that you mean that many GC women understand that fallible human beings are a mixture of good and less good, or even bad, then I'll put my hand up and say I'm one of them. I prefer to make up my own mind about people, particularly if I don't know them personally, rather than follow the in-crowd in condemning others for wrong-think or not "being kind".

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:52

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/08/2026 17:50

I don't know him either. It's just always revealing when the anti women's rights / purity spirallers self importantly pontificate on here about the latest wrong think from various women in the hope of smearing and blaming them.
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As others have said upthread, using someone's death as an opportunity to vent fury about them online seems disrespectful. It doesn't mean I necessarily approve of someone - just that I'm an adult able to exercise restraint while family and friends are grieving.

It's rather odd to make a post about a man and then come on here and try and tell women off for saying or thinking the Wrong Thing about him.

I mean, really fucking odd. When you think about it. Totally random.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:50

I didn't say I found it funny. I was explaining what it was. It wasn't literal reportage. Sometimes people write things that are not supposed to be taken literally. And some people seem to be struggling with the concept.

Edit - Sorry, MrsO, a response to the person one up from you!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/08/2026 17:50

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:41

Thanks, MrsOverton.

I didn't know the man and I don't have a horse in this race.

But it is interesting how some people seem very keen to damn the man for all eternity for having an argument with his girlfriend and making jokes.

I don't know him either. It's just always revealing when the anti women's rights / purity spirallers self importantly pontificate on here about the latest wrong think from various women in the hope of smearing and blaming them.
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As others have said upthread, using someone's death as an opportunity to vent fury about them online seems disrespectful. It doesn't mean I necessarily approve of someone - just that I'm an adult able to exercise restraint while family and friends are grieving.

SoBoredOfSelfDoubtHowToGetOut · 03/08/2026 17:48

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:32

This is what we used to call 'a joke'.

You are weirdo if you find shagging children funny.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:46

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 03/08/2026 17:44

Loads of GC women have no standards at all. As long as someone is GC, that’s all that matters to them.

That's a rather odd thing to say, isn't it?

I mean, not very <nice>, is it?

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 03/08/2026 17:44

Loads of GC women have no standards at all. As long as someone is GC, that’s all that matters to them.

RhymesWithOrange · 03/08/2026 17:44

I remember back in 2021 when hardly anyone would say in public that men weren’t women. Rod Liddle said it. So yeah, I was grateful for that. I disagreed with pretty much everything else he said but they were desperate times.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 17:44

Hi, OP. What does your username refer to?