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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Different instinctive reactions to men and trans women in public

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Waheymum · 01/08/2026 21:14

It's occurred to me that I have crossed the road to avoid potentially dodgy men countless times in my life, but never a transwoman, even though I know that transwomen pose exactly the same threats as men do. I'll notice transwomen and recognise that they are trans, but I don't have the same socially-conditioned flight response.

Does anyone else experience this?

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2021x · 02/08/2026 06:06

Hoardasurass · 02/08/2026 01:14

Your wrong according to the ons and ministry of justice

This is interesting graphic.

Today I learned that transmen can achieve the same level of strength to other men- I wonder if their violent offending will also increase in line with men as well.

2021x · 02/08/2026 06:04

All men pose the same level of threat to a woman based on their significantly higher strength. Even through accidents a woman is much more likely to be hurt by a man than a man can be hurt by a woman.

What makes the difference is their behaviour.

Men who are safe to be around either have a) a reduced sexual interest in woman i.e. gay men/asexual men or b) have enough self-awareness to know they are stronger and have a history of being more politically empowered, but know they personally are not responsible for that.

Men who are unsafe to be around are generally a) unaware of their strength and are ignorent non the effect it has on the behaviour of women around them b) overly apologetic/ashamed about their increased power and strength c) men who continually push on societal boundaries set up to protect female bodies for their own needs/amusements/sexual satisfaction.

If a transwomen enters a female only space or are dressed like a doll/sex toy they fall into the latter category. Transwomen who do not enter female only spaces fall into the former category. Of course I can't tell the differnce when walking on the street so I will probably - knowing there is a risk because of the strength difference- take the same choice that I would if they were presenting as a man.

So I wouldn't go as far as to cross the street if I see someone who is a transwoman but if they are dressing overly provocatively thats a sign it is a sexual fetish, or they use a female only space because their identity is more important that the saftey of women then yeah I would do everything possible to avoid them- especially being in a room alone with them.

dinodart · 02/08/2026 05:36

FrippEnos · 02/08/2026 05:10

I was wondering if this was a TIM vs "cis" male thread.

As per the "its not trans women its cis men that are the problem" that some TRAs are pushing.

Then Namechangee11 posts* *

"Cis gendered males are statistically more dangerous and even more so if you're related to them."

Its nice to not be let down by the TRA army.

lol, they never let facts get in the way of their proselytizing

FrippEnos · 02/08/2026 05:10

I was wondering if this was a TIM vs "cis" male thread.

As per the "its not trans women its cis men that are the problem" that some TRAs are pushing.

Then Namechangee11 posts* *

"Cis gendered males are statistically more dangerous and even more so if you're related to them."

Its nice to not be let down by the TRA army.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/08/2026 03:25

thirdfiddle · 02/08/2026 01:36

If we're in a crossing road to avoid scenario it's probably a lonely place late at night. You're not going to be able to read the guy's pronouns badge. Unless he's small and a good actor mimicking a female gait, chances are you'd just register man.

Very good point.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/08/2026 03:23

RockingGrandma · 02/08/2026 02:08

Could you provide evidence re statistics showing Trans Women pose a bigger threat - everything I have read indicates both Trans Men and Trans Women are more likely to be victims of violence, rather than perpetrators.

Please post a citation to back up the claim that men who identify as “trans” are more likely than other men to be victims of violence and less likely to be perpetrators.

glaciercherry · 02/08/2026 02:32

Namechangee11 · 02/08/2026 01:03

I do wonder how many of these threads you lot can keep creating. It's seemingly numerous and endless in relation to an issue that effects a very small number of people.

It affects all females. That’s over 30million in the UK alone.

If two people get the law changed for 100,000 the number of people it affects is 100,000, not 2.

FilmsandBooks · 02/08/2026 02:23

RockingGrandma · 02/08/2026 02:08

Could you provide evidence re statistics showing Trans Women pose a bigger threat - everything I have read indicates both Trans Men and Trans Women are more likely to be victims of violence, rather than perpetrators.

They’re posted just above. Transwomen are far more likely to offend sexually than any other group.

Pingponghavoc · 02/08/2026 02:13

thirdfiddle · 02/08/2026 01:36

If we're in a crossing road to avoid scenario it's probably a lonely place late at night. You're not going to be able to read the guy's pronouns badge. Unless he's small and a good actor mimicking a female gait, chances are you'd just register man.

This.

RockingGrandma · 02/08/2026 02:08

Hoardasurass · 01/08/2026 23:15

Nope when I see a transwomen im automatically on tightened alert as I know that statistically they are more dangerous than the average man

Could you provide evidence re statistics showing Trans Women pose a bigger threat - everything I have read indicates both Trans Men and Trans Women are more likely to be victims of violence, rather than perpetrators.

nutmeg7 · 02/08/2026 02:02

Namechangee11 · 02/08/2026 01:03

I do wonder how many of these threads you lot can keep creating. It's seemingly numerous and endless in relation to an issue that effects a very small number of people.

“You lot”.

One person created this thread; I have no idea why.

There is no need to treat everyone on this board as if we are all the same; you don’t know what every person you meet here thinks or has experienced. Put your lazy prejudice in the bin.

There is no “you lot”.

And it is “affects” (verb).

FilmsandBooks · 02/08/2026 01:53

I don’t generally cross the road to avoid anyone unless I’m out really early or really late and it feels a bit more threatening because there aren’t many people around and in that case I’d be just as likely to cross if it was a transwoman as any other guy because they’re all just men.

Hedgehogforshort · 02/08/2026 01:36

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thirdfiddle · 02/08/2026 01:36

If we're in a crossing road to avoid scenario it's probably a lonely place late at night. You're not going to be able to read the guy's pronouns badge. Unless he's small and a good actor mimicking a female gait, chances are you'd just register man.

Hoardasurass · 02/08/2026 01:14

Namechangee11 · 02/08/2026 01:01

That's not true. Cis gendered males are statistically more dangerous and even more so if you're related to them. By all means have your opinions but don't tell lies.

Your wrong according to the ons and ministry of justice

Different instinctive reactions to men and trans women in public
Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/08/2026 01:07

Namechangee11 · 02/08/2026 01:01

That's not true. Cis gendered males are statistically more dangerous and even more so if you're related to them. By all means have your opinions but don't tell lies.

Feel free to quote these robust statistics that “cis gendered men are statistically more dangerous” than trans identified males.

dinodart · 02/08/2026 01:07

how many trans identified men do you see on the regular? tbh, i don't encounter enough of them at this point in time to say...

Whatchamacallitt · 02/08/2026 01:05

Namechangee11 · 02/08/2026 01:01

That's not true. Cis gendered males are statistically more dangerous and even more so if you're related to them. By all means have your opinions but don't tell lies.

The stats don't lie. If you look at the number of trans-identified men imprisoned for sexual offences compared to the overall population of them, it demonstrates that trans-identified men commit these crimes at a higher rate than the average for men.

DrJump · 02/08/2026 01:04

I generally wouldn't cross a road if there was a dodgy looking person because I have found that sparks them off too much.

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Namechangee11 · 02/08/2026 01:03

I do wonder how many of these threads you lot can keep creating. It's seemingly numerous and endless in relation to an issue that effects a very small number of people.

Namechangee11 · 02/08/2026 01:01

Hoardasurass · 01/08/2026 23:15

Nope when I see a transwomen im automatically on tightened alert as I know that statistically they are more dangerous than the average man

That's not true. Cis gendered males are statistically more dangerous and even more so if you're related to them. By all means have your opinions but don't tell lies.

Whatchamacallitt · 02/08/2026 01:00

If anything I have a stronger reaction to trans-identified men because I know they are more likely to be paraphilic and sexually violent than your average man is.

icingonmycupcake · 01/08/2026 23:52

'I'll notice transwomen and recognise that they are trans, but I don't have the same socially-conditioned flight response.
Does anyone else experience this?'

After the last 10 years?...I have the same response.

sohard · 01/08/2026 23:39

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Hoardasurass · 01/08/2026 23:22

Hoardasurass · 01/08/2026 23:15

Nope when I see a transwomen im automatically on tightened alert as I know that statistically they are more dangerous than the average man

Heightened not tightened