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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Health and Safety and women in stained glass making

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WrongKindOfFeminist · 01/08/2026 11:24

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g4dvkg847o

Rules about lead exposure may mean women aren't allowed to work with lead.

Interesting conundrum.

A woman with short dark hair wearing a blue protective jacket and blue gloves, stands beside a table covered with a piece of stained glass. Behind her there are windows and lamps with red cloths over them.

Stained glass rule change may impact women's jobs

Health and safety rules on lead exposure could be changed and put jobs at risk, glaziers say.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g4dvkg847o

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mackerella · 01/08/2026 21:43

WrongKindOfFeminist · 01/08/2026 21:07

Thanks for your insight. Are there ways to.further mitigate/lessen exposure, do you think?

Great question! I'm not an expert on lead specifically, but as with all other hazardous materials, it will be about looking at the most common routes to exposure (inhalation of dust, inadvertent ingestion from direct skin contact, or whatever) and mitigating those. Unfortunately, there's only so much you can do to reduce contact if you're actually conserving an object that contains lead: it generally requires you to spend hours and hours working in close proximity! Most of the time, it's a tremendous privilege to spend so much time caring for something ancient, but occasionally it can also be to the detriment of the conservator.

One of the problems with heritage conservation is that until recently it has been very overlooked and not afforded as much pay or status as other professions that require an equal amount of skill and education. As I said, it's a female-heavy profession, so I'm sure this is not a coincidence! And there's definitely a connection with the fact that it requires care and patience and empathy (see also nursing), which are seen as "feminine" attributes. Until recently, there has been a pervasive attitude that it's such a privilege to be doing the job at all that to ask for fair pay or working conditions - short-term contracts are rife - is a bit distasteful. It's a vocation, so conservators should be grateful to be paid at all! Luckily, this has changed a lot in the last 20 years - partly because we started to organise collectively, and partly because it became a more "sciency" profession, and therefore more "respectable" Hmm - but I think there are still comparisons to be made with how other "female" professions such as teaching and nursing have struggled to be respected.

Sorry, that's all a long way off the original topic, but still relevant to this board, I hope!

WrongKindOfFeminist · 01/08/2026 22:01

It's all interesting!

I don't know anything about working with lead, but what I do know is that often safety equipment can impede fine detail work, so that would potentially be a difficult quandary to address.

I hope they're able to find ways to address the problems, though.

I know that the stated issue was 'female reproductive system', but I'd say that doesn't just mean 'ability to make babies'. Women's hormonal systems are so complex and finely tuned, until menopause explodes everything that any health impacts on women could have far more impact than just reproductive facility/baby health.

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AstonCanKissMyArse · 01/08/2026 22:06

Also I believe the article said there were two considered limits for exposure for women, one pre menopause and one post.

That must be a can of worms to administer as it relies on the woman 'declaring' menopause? Or maybe it is deemed to happen at eg 50 for all women.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 02/08/2026 02:53

AstonCanKissMyArse · 01/08/2026 22:06

Also I believe the article said there were two considered limits for exposure for women, one pre menopause and one post.

That must be a can of worms to administer as it relies on the woman 'declaring' menopause? Or maybe it is deemed to happen at eg 50 for all women.

That must be a can of worms to administer as it relies on the woman 'declaring' menopause? Or maybe it is deemed to happen at eg 50 for all women.

In my menopausal 'lived experience' that won't be a problem because we menopausal types never shut up about being menopausal. 😂

Hoardasurass · 02/08/2026 15:10

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 01/08/2026 11:39

I wonder how long lead stays in the blood

Not so long in the blood but lead gets stored in the bones & leaches out for years so I don't think that a waiver could ever be appropriate. The answer is proper H&S to reduce the risk of exposure for everyone e.g. ventilation, respirator, alternatives to lead etc etc

There is no alternative to lead in stained glass windows.
Also they already use respirators, ventilators and ppe.

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 02/08/2026 16:25

Hoardasurass · 02/08/2026 15:10

There is no alternative to lead in stained glass windows.
Also they already use respirators, ventilators and ppe.

Also they already use respirators, ventilators and ppe.

In that case they need to use equipment like that used for handling nuclear material or robot arms or something.

UltimateSloth · 02/08/2026 19:17

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 02/08/2026 16:25

Also they already use respirators, ventilators and ppe.

In that case they need to use equipment like that used for handling nuclear material or robot arms or something.

There may be some tightening of the controls that could bring them within the limit.

Have their respirators been face fit tested annually and additionally if there are any changes in the face e.g. dental work. Could full face respirators be used with breathing air supplied?

Is the local exhaust ventilation hood in the correct position. Are there specialist shrouds for on-tool extraction.

Can a limit be set on how many hours an individual spends in this task. Have they been properly instructed in the use of respirators. How often are they changing their gloves. Lots of possibilities.

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