The High Court has ruled against Sex Matters in their case against the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) and British Transport Police (BTP) over their “consensual” searching policies

Yes, I've always thought that the person would have a get out of jail or free clause just by identifying as the sex to avoid the situation.

But of course, it doesn't work like that. It's women who will get pressurised, whether they are doing the searching, or being searched.

Might have to double my monthly SM subscription. Infuriating.

It's the person being searched who can request opposite sex, so aTiM asking for a woman pc. Maybe they could keep a TiM on staff for just this scenario? Woman searches woman and they're both male, solved.

Ruling is batshit.

I just can't get my head around a specific situation of extreme vulnerability, a strip search, intimate medical examination for rape, smear test...in two of these three cases, one can expect a female to perform it or a woman can easily ask for a female, but in one case, the pressure is on not to dissent from a TIM officer.
What makes it even more exasperating is that almost every situation where multiple officers attend a crime scene (pretty much every case), there are female officers present. Even if there is a TIM on the team attending, why would the TIM be appointed to perform the strip search? Why wouldn't the female officers naturally be chosen?

There was a police officer on here a while back she said sometimes there was only one female police officer around. And searches happen a lot more than one might think. In which case, she will absolutely be pressured to do it.

It was in response to yeah but they can say no. She's said in reality, that's very, very difficult.

How would it work in practice? Does the TWPC take you out for a drink first?

I'm just amazed by the statistical improbability.
How many of the population are TIM?
How many PCs are TIM?
How many women arrested need a strip search?
How many TIMs are present when a woman needs a strip search?
How many situations where women needing a strip search exist where a real WPC can't do it instead?
This is all tending to 0.01% at most.
Yet here we are, males end up controlling that 0.01%.

Unbelievable!! The assertion that they could operate outside of PACE was absolutely ludicrous. I cannot believe a judge accepted that!! What other regulations are they able to just ignore?

And when, cos it will be when, a female officer has to search a man, and he starts moaning, winking, panting, does she have any recourse, or is she fucked because she said yes to it??

That sounds fucking believable!

So whilst they conduct the search, they're not under the PACE regulations, they're acting in an entirely private, mutually consensual capacity?

So can they start groping each other? Snog, have sex??

What's Private about conducting a police generated search based on evidence that the person might be criminal?

it's so bloody incoherent I'm speechless.

obviously Sex Matters are going to take it to the next level. But fuck me, women should not be having to work this hard to stop men abusing them

Fucking hell what was that judge and lawyers for the police thinking

I find this unbelievable. SM have - as usual - set out the case so clearly. I can’t imagine a second court would uphold this, but it’s so frustrating that both sides have to put time and money into something so blatantly wrong. And disgusting that police chiefs are yet again hiding their misogyny in plain sight.