Do we have a thread for the DC Rachel Fletcher misconduct hearing?

That article's very enlightening about why they wanted her out. Opposing self ID and male police officers intimately assaulting women prisoners.

Hope the crowd funder's doing well.

Thank you for this. Great article. Fucking awful.

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There you go. All it takes is a little bleeding creativity, ffs.

We don't need that many to prevent in-breeding. Certainly not millions. Perhaps a few thousand. Many genetic diseases can be screened out too.

Damn (chews pencil).

Ok, so not castrated, but imprisoned. Job done.

That way, we can also see what they look like, to pick which one gets to donate their seed.

No mingers, obvs (shudders).

I don't recall attributing that particular argument to the police -although I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear them say it as well as myriad men in general all over SM and IRL. It's a pretty common trope.

Edit - I just worked out who you are (your former username on here I mean)

Worked in a police station for 20 years and never heard anyone say that at work or outside work

So you agree the idea is wrong. Honestly it would be so much more straightforward if people said what 5eu meant.

Tip: when indulging in whataboutery , don’t spoil the fun by actually using the words “what about”.

I think the inbreeding would cause quite serious issues. Another ridiculous idea.

Funny that I wasn't the one who brought it up but you had no objections to that. Almost like you can't deny what I'm saying is true.

Julie Bindel has written about this in Unherd, don't read it unless you want to get angry all over again

https://archive.ph/AsAuz

https://unherd.com/2026/08/does-the-force-fear-feminists/?edition=us

Regarding curfews, this article from the Sun is linked in the above

Sarah Everard missing: Cops warn women ‘be careful going out alone’ after 33-year-old vanishes off London streets https://share.google/d5NGKHw5spE0hlg6F

Despite the source it's worth a reading as a reminder of the usual lots of words, including from the Police, about women keeping themselves safe. Something that women take on board because we know expecting anything from men, about men will never be forthcoming. In fact it'll get you sacked.

This thread is about the sacking of a female police officer. Not whether pp think the thought experiment first pithily quipped by Golda Meir and proposed in a tongue in cheek way by hundreds of other feminists is logically sound in every single possible way.

Yes, there could be a ballot.

Ah. Their answer to to that is saying women need to pick better men. Another lovely victim blaming argument they like to propound.

Whatever men do to women, it's always our own fault somehow.

It’s a thought experiment 🙄

True, we could of course, just castrate all males at birth. Except for one or two to propagate the species.

@TheignT I agree, not all rapes are committed by strangers out on the street. We know that we are more at risk from our partners, exes, relatives and colleagues. The "men should have a curfew" suggestion is about addressing the former, not the latter. It's a challenge to the idea that women would be perfectly safe from men raping them, if only they didn't go out at night.

It's reversing an incorrect statement with an incorrect statement.

So saying something that is clearly wrong is going to convince people that something else that is clearly wrong is wrong. Brilliant. Why not point out that their argument is wrong because women who stay at home can still get raped.

I think her logic is wrong if she thinks a curfew stops rape. You could say a curfew stops night time stranger rape or night time street rape but it doesn't stop rape. That's just a fact.

You're totally missing the point. It's just an answer to all the men saying that women should stay at home, not be out alone late at night, take myraid precautions after dark etc. or it's their own fault if they are assaulted.

Its reversing the victim blaming.

First person to say this was Golda Meir, Israeli PM in the 70s:

Though reluctant to directly identify as a feminist, Golda was known to sometimes say things that could only be described as feminist in nature. During Israel’s rape epidemic in the early 1970s , Golda’s cabinet suggested creating a curfew for women as a possible solution. Golda replied, “But it is the men who are attacking the women. If there is to be a curfew, let the men stay at home.” Even though Golda wouldn’t have called herself a feminist, this was a bold statement, especially at the time. This quotation leads one to believe that Golda recognized the problematic nature of victim-blaming, and the injustice inherent in placing the responsibility of rape prevention on women rather than on men.

https://jwa.org/blog/risingvoices/badass-bubbee

Is that a reason for DC Fletcher to be sacked then, you think her logic is faulty?