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Sexist Unions boycott Labour women's conference

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fromorbit · 29/07/2026 10:53

Unison, Aslef, Usdaw and the Musicians Union are planning to not attend Labour Women's Conference on 26 September 2026 in Liverpool because men are not allowed.

This is breaking Labour party rules against sex discrimination against women and that the Supreme Court judgement is correct:
https://labour.org.uk/resources/supreme-court-judgment-faqs/

This could be a huge issue for Burnham and Labour. Especially as Unison, & Unite are already facing court cases over their refusal to admit women exist.

Like the recent Amnesty trainwreck this could be a self inflicted car crash for TAs in the unions. It will force Labour to choose between reality and catering to a bunch of sexists who don't like it when women get have political meetings without male supervision.

Supreme Court Judgment FAQs – The Labour Party

Supreme Court Judgment: Frequently Asked Questions On 16 April 2025, the Supreme Court clarified that references to “women” in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological sex (meaning the sex of a person at birth), not gender. This means that certain sex...

https://labour.org.uk/resources/supreme-court-judgment-faqs/

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Rollingpinofdoom · Yesterday 23:38

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 19:08

You need to get a grip. A handful of people standing outside in silence is not bullying. Genuine question - how on earth do you cope in every day life?

ah, but when we get TRA claiming words are literal violence, and refusing to pretend transpeople have not changed sex is “literal genocide”, surely people can call some saddos stood outside a conference bullying?

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 23:31

GailBlancheViola · Yesterday 21:55

Neither do you, so your point is?

Think that comment was made out of desperation. It bore no relation to the post it was in response to. 😁

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 23:30

SirChenjins · Yesterday 22:56

And what is "sensibly GC"?

Following men's instructions?

SirChenjins · Yesterday 22:56

And what is "sensibly GC"?

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 22:53

JanesLittleGirl · Yesterday 22:22

@alcovecupboards Do you claim to speak for any GC women? If so, what do you understand by the term 'Gender Critical'?

I speak for myself. I'm sensibly GC - and believe my beliefs more accurately represent the majority of people full stop. The radicalisation of Mumsnet's contingent clearly isn't reflective of wider society. You only have to look at how legal losses are being claimed as wins here - when they aren't. It's backfiring badly all to line a few people's pockets.

JanesLittleGirl · Yesterday 22:22

@alcovecupboards Do you claim to speak for any GC women? If so, what do you understand by the term 'Gender Critical'?

GailBlancheViola · Yesterday 21:55

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 20:26

You don't speak for all GC women. And you clearly don't speak for all women.

Neither do you, so your point is?

Shortshriftandlethal · Yesterday 20:48

GailBlancheViola · Yesterday 17:34

Um, you might want to check the provenance of that video - it is clearly from Cologne Pride in Germany.

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I've been around the conference venue twice today... and not really much in the way of visible protests about anything yet. I imagine that will start tmorrow.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 20:41

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · Yesterday 20:33

Labour has never elected a female leader and can’t hold a women’s conference. They’ve let fringe activists destroy even that. Why should any woman vote for them?

Indeed. Just shows how they've fallen. The conferences go back to the 1900s and you can see through them the progression of many of the influential labour women.

Again it's a sign of how transactivism trashes so much of what it touches - especially if it's something specifically for women.

Duckyfondant · Yesterday 20:37

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 19:12

I think estimates say that it has attracted just 25% of its usual attendees. So the question is rather - why so many women would rather side with trans people than GC people? And I'm very confident in saying that it's because we've allowed hateful extremists to take over the messaging instead of backing sensible same sex provision where necessary.

Where is this figure from? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times but can't find it's source.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 20:36

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · Yesterday 20:33

Labour has never elected a female leader and can’t hold a women’s conference. They’ve let fringe activists destroy even that. Why should any woman vote for them?

They've had many - without incident I might add.

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · Yesterday 20:33

Labour has never elected a female leader and can’t hold a women’s conference. They’ve let fringe activists destroy even that. Why should any woman vote for them?

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 20:26

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 20:21

Lol at all your "we" & "us". 😂

Women on here will understand only too well that the fear of violence, bullying and threats are enough to put many women off attending.

Labour once had a reasonable history of promoting the rights of women. Not so much the unions, many of who have for decades been mired in scandals involving the abuse of women - take a look at the recent history of the RCN as an example.

Trying to frame the poor attendance as the fault of women is laughable, but predictable given the nature of so many of your posts on FWR.

The poor attendance is down to the usual tactics of intimidation so beloved by trans extremists.

You don't speak for all GC women. And you clearly don't speak for all women.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 20:21

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 19:12

I think estimates say that it has attracted just 25% of its usual attendees. So the question is rather - why so many women would rather side with trans people than GC people? And I'm very confident in saying that it's because we've allowed hateful extremists to take over the messaging instead of backing sensible same sex provision where necessary.

Lol at all your "we" & "us". 😂

Women on here will understand only too well that the fear of violence, bullying and threats are enough to put many women off attending.

Labour once had a reasonable history of promoting the rights of women. Not so much the unions, many of who have for decades been mired in scandals involving the abuse of women - take a look at the recent history of the RCN as an example.

Trying to frame the poor attendance as the fault of women is laughable, but predictable given the nature of so many of your posts on FWR.

The poor attendance is down to the usual tactics of intimidation so beloved by trans extremists.

SirChenjins · Yesterday 20:04

borntobequiet · Yesterday 19:21

I often can’t scroll down on X links, but I could on this and it was worth it.

why are you protesting about women attending a women’s conference? Are they not allowed to do that without the presence of men (whether they are men in dresses or not)? Who are you - the Taliban?!

The Taliban - love it! It has a definite ring of truth...

Awkwardisfunny · Yesterday 19:47

downhillfromhier · 30/07/2026 18:32

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Andy Burnham decided to emulate the boy in the Emperor's New Clothes and call them all out?. He has the Supreme Court verdict in his corner.
He won't of course but it would improve his poll ratings if he did.

Yep

borntobequiet · Yesterday 19:21

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 18:25

What does appear to be good news is that for all the threats and whining, there appear to be 8? people & a couple of flags trying to silence women. With Steph producing a very self centred leaflet about his alleged "advocacy for women" - the larger demo photographed appears to be about Palestine?

So maybe all the union hype was just hot air - or maybe Labour did suggest that they STFU and leave women alone?

https://x.com/charles_hart/status/2103762746525245684

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I often can’t scroll down on X links, but I could on this and it was worth it.

why are you protesting about women attending a women’s conference? Are they not allowed to do that without the presence of men (whether they are men in dresses or not)? Who are you - the Taliban?!

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 19:12

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 18:25

What does appear to be good news is that for all the threats and whining, there appear to be 8? people & a couple of flags trying to silence women. With Steph producing a very self centred leaflet about his alleged "advocacy for women" - the larger demo photographed appears to be about Palestine?

So maybe all the union hype was just hot air - or maybe Labour did suggest that they STFU and leave women alone?

https://x.com/charles_hart/status/2103762746525245684

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I think estimates say that it has attracted just 25% of its usual attendees. So the question is rather - why so many women would rather side with trans people than GC people? And I'm very confident in saying that it's because we've allowed hateful extremists to take over the messaging instead of backing sensible same sex provision where necessary.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 19:08

IwantToRetire · Yesterday 18:53

I know!

So am happy to be an example.

And even if the turn out at Liverpool to today was smaller, it is still bullying endorsed by Labour, even if only its silence.

You need to get a grip. A handful of people standing outside in silence is not bullying. Genuine question - how on earth do you cope in every day life?

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 19:07

There was never going to be a major demonstration - there doesn't need to be. The unions have all spoken and the overwhelming narrative is not one of a successful conference. And I'm afraid the groups inside aren't helping themselves by claiming it's 'standing room only' next to pictures of a tiny room and empty chairs. This has become a major problem for us - there is no need to lie or be outrageously hateful.

IwantToRetire · Yesterday 18:53

GailBlancheViola · Yesterday 18:13

Okay if you are happy to look foolish to have been taken in by an obvious wind-up that's up to you but be prepared for those on the TRA side of the debate to use your gullibility to their utmost.

Its a good example, which I am happy to be part of, that twitter and other sm sources should be double checked. Which you failed to do.

I know!

So am happy to be an example.

And even if the turn out at Liverpool to today was smaller, it is still bullying endorsed by Labour, even if only its silence.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 18:25

What does appear to be good news is that for all the threats and whining, there appear to be 8? people & a couple of flags trying to silence women. With Steph producing a very self centred leaflet about his alleged "advocacy for women" - the larger demo photographed appears to be about Palestine?

So maybe all the union hype was just hot air - or maybe Labour did suggest that they STFU and leave women alone?

https://x.com/charles_hart/status/2103762746525245684

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 18:15

IwantToRetire · Yesterday 17:48

Why?

Its a good example, which I am happy to be part of, that twitter and other sm sources should be double checked.

Your comment includes this: "How can the Labour Party not be ashamed that this is the public response. None. Let women be bullied".

But that image is evidently not the "public response".
There's nothing wrong in being misled by social media and nothing wrong in asking MNHQ to delete the image. Surely it's the mature thing to do?

GailBlancheViola · Yesterday 18:13

IwantToRetire · Yesterday 17:48

Why?

Its a good example, which I am happy to be part of, that twitter and other sm sources should be double checked.

Okay if you are happy to look foolish to have been taken in by an obvious wind-up that's up to you but be prepared for those on the TRA side of the debate to use your gullibility to their utmost.

Its a good example, which I am happy to be part of, that twitter and other sm sources should be double checked. Which you failed to do.

IwantToRetire · Yesterday 17:48

GailBlancheViola · Yesterday 17:46

Suggest you ask for your post containing it to be removed.

Why?

Its a good example, which I am happy to be part of, that twitter and other sm sources should be double checked.

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