Brave reporter undergoes inhumane sex test for sports. Brace yourselves.

Caster Semenya is exactly an example of complexity, and that it’s not as easy to put people in one of two boxes as we’d like to think. I think she’s an intersex woman, and I think it’s sad a world class athlete can’t compete.

I go by Prof Robert Winstons definition of sex.

SRY gene plus functional testosterone receptors means you are male and everyone else is female.

That determines sex in people even if they have a DSD ( except perhaps very rare ones). It certainly covers 5Ard which is the male DSD that Caster Semanya has. Or do you still think Semanya is a woman with naturally high testosterone ?

There are a lot of different types of DSD of course, but broadly it means they have a mix of male and female biological traits, meaning their chromosomes, hormones, or sex organs do not all match up as purely male or purely female…. it just isn’t as straightforward as someone is either male or female. I know you’d like to believe it’s super straightforward, but (sorry if this sounds rude) that’s your failure of understanding / curiosity / openness.

There are a lot of different types of DSD of course, but broadly it means they have a mix of male and female biological traits, meaning their chromosomes, hormones, or sex organs do not all match up as purely male or purely female…. it just isn’t as straightforward as someone is either male or female. I know you’d like to believe it’s super straightforward, but (sorry if this sounds rude) that’s your failure of understanding / curiosity / openness.

The tests are very simple. Presence of the Y chromosome prevents you from competing in female events.

There are a lot of different types of DSD of course, but broadly it means they have a mix of male and female biological traits, meaning their chromosomes, hormones, or sex organs do not all match up as purely male or purely female…. it just isn’t as straightforward as someone is either male or female. I know you’d like to believe it’s super straightforward, but (sorry if this sounds rude) that’s your failure of understanding / curiosity / openness.

The tests are very simple. Presence of the Y chromosome prevents you from competing in female events.

There are a lot of different types of DSD of course, but broadly it means they have a mix of male and female biological traits, meaning their chromosomes, hormones, or sex organs do not all match up as purely male or purely female…. it just isn’t as straightforward as someone is either male or female. I know you’d like to believe it’s super straightforward, but (sorry if this sounds rude) that’s your failure of understanding / curiosity / openness.

Do you realise that people with DSDs are either male or female

Do you understand what a difference of sex development is? chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex does not fit typical male OR female patterns. I know it would be easier for your argument if sex really was completely binary in ALL cases for every single human being, but we know it isn’t I’m afraid.

Do you understand what a difference of sex development is? chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex does not fit typical male OR female patterns. I know it would be easier for your argument if sex really was completely binary in ALL cases for every single human being, but we know it isn’t I’m afraid.

Only the male ones who shouldn't be competing in female categories

One of the worries is scientists think it may disproportionately penalise athletes with a difference of sex development (DSD).

Am I missing something, why will the results be feared, everyone knows what sex they are, so if you're not a cheat then nothing to fear.

Oh very much so. I think a lot of dubious characters were getting very excited at the idea of getting their genitals inspected.
Sorry boys, it's just a cheek swab. No one wants to take a look in your trousers 😆

Am I missing something, why will the results be feared, everyone knows what sex they are, so if you're not a cheat then nothing to fear.

Useful she didn't find it traumatising at all.

And yes, in context of the last decade, this is nothing at all. It's the results that will be feared, not the test.

Here's a blow-by-blow first-person account of what it is like to have the new sports sex test that is being decried as invasive and dehumanising and (in a rather extravagant bending of the facts) a genital inspection etc.

After such a big build-up, prepare to be.... underwhelmed. But please do stop scrolling now if you don't want to read the distressing details:

"I open my mouth and feel the swab brushing the inside of my cheeks for about 20 seconds. The practitioner carefully places the sample in a small plastic bag and then pops it into a sealed envelope. I sign the back of it."

https://archive.ph/kITV9

I guess a lot of TRAs are going to be disappointed that it is so straightforward and nobody is going to have to show their genitals.
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I love how they ignore the fact that antidoping urine tests, which all elite athletes undergo - often at completely random times (TdF athletes were recently woken at 2am on a race night for them) are far MORE invasive and involve an official having an unobstructed view of your genitals while you are urinating.

Bit no, a cheek swap is far more invasive than having a lady in a white coat observe your sweaty fanjo while weeing into a cup after a 150km race.