Most 'trans' people are non binary - EU survey

'what a man is' is also an inexplicable feeling, and 'what a woman is' too, so if you've got an inexplicable feeling how does one know what gender/otherwise that makes you?

What if it turned out that weird feeling that no-one can put into words to communicate in any way - even a hint - that you had was in fact the woman-feeling?

This is why I think people are not being honest about it. Someone at some point has communicated 'what feeling NB feels like' or 'what feeling like a woman feels like' to someone else. Yet this is suddenly now something that is literally meaningless - they can't assign any meaning to it.

I’m seeing June Whitfield saying “that’s nice dear”.

Of course, not one person on the planet has to act as if they believe your subjective belief is material belief. Just because you believe that you are this description and label that you have chosen, doesn't mean anyone has to act as if it is based in material reality.

Not even your family members, so no doubt you will find it stressful to tell them. Because they are really under no obligation to comply with any changes that you tell them you want them to make about how they perceive you or communicate with you.

"Here's a random word. I can't explain or define the word, and I don't know what it means to other people, but I know it describes me and some other people. And because this random word describes me, everyone else has to behave in a special way around me."

... Right. Perfectly normal and reasonable.

I don't feel I have a gender, which is why I identify as nb.

I don't feel I have a gender either (as I've already explained, I don't believe anyone 'has' a gender, since gender is just something which is externally imposed on us). Why have you decided that this means you're NB?

I only don't explain because of bigotry, prejudice and the tiresomeness of explaining. My mother is 83, and though she supports my trans son it would be an immense bore having to explain being nb to her.

I imagine you also don't want to give her an eye injury with all the eye-rolling that would result. Or maybe you're worried that she'd just tell you to grow up, as all that identity stuff is something you should have grown out of by your 20s.

I said non-binary people had being attacked in common. That's all. Please try to read my actual words rather than decide what I wrote then reply to that.

Nothing exterior affects the person I am, that's just your projection.

I would rather not be nb but am proud of who I am nonetheless, and barely anyone I know even knows about it.

I only don't explain because of bigotry, prejudice and the tiresomeness of explaining. My mother is 83, and though she supports my trans son it would be an immense bore having to explain being nb to her.

I also have some Britain First types within my stepfamily, and would rather keep my head down.

I don't feel I have a gender, which is why I identify as nb. Others will differ.

I don't give a damn what other people think of me and prefer to be left alone.

Suggesting I'm only nb for attention absolutely proves my point about bigotry, thank you. I keep myself to myself irl to avoid people like you.

It fits me in ways I cannot explain. The only feeling that's come close was getting to know some close, long-lost family. When you know, you know.

Know what?!

I swear to god.

I said non-binary people had being attacked in common. That's all. Please try to read my actual words rather than decide what I wrote then reply to that.

Nothing exterior affects the person I am, that's just your projection.

I would rather not be nb but am proud of who I am nonetheless, and barely anyone I know even knows about it.

I only don't explain because of bigotry, prejudice and the tiresomeness of explaining. My mother is 83, and though she supports my trans son it would be an immense bore having to explain being nb to her.

I also have some Britain First types within my stepfamily, and would rather keep my head down.

I don't feel I have a gender, which is why I identify as nb. Others will differ.

I don't give a damn what other people think of me and prefer to be left alone.

Suggesting I'm only nb for attention absolutely proves my point about bigotry, thank you. I keep myself to myself irl to avoid people like you.

I said non-binary people had being attacked in common. That's all. Please try to read my actual words rather than decide what I wrote then reply to that.

Nothing exterior affects the person I am, that's just your projection.

I would rather not be nb but am proud of who I am nonetheless, and barely anyone I know even knows about it.

I only don't explain because of bigotry, prejudice and the tiresomeness of explaining. My mother is 83, and though she supports my trans son it would be an immense bore having to explain being nb to her.

I also have some Britain First types within my stepfamily, and would rather keep my head down.

I don't feel I have a gender, which is why I identify as nb. Others will differ.

I don't give a damn what other people think of me and prefer to be left alone.

Suggesting I'm only nb for attention absolutely proves my point about bigotry, thank you. I keep myself to myself irl to avoid people like you.

I already replied to you, but fine.

I learned about being nb from someone else who was nb (but in a different way) as I said. Nb people are different but share two important characteristics: we know we're not a binary gender, and people attack us for it.

Nb people don't have a hive mind. They are individuals who all describe themselves as nb. Not sure how that's difficult.

It fits me in ways I cannot explain. The only feeling that's come close was getting to know some close, long-lost family. When you know, you know.

In the same way that I knew my sister was my relative, without being told, I know who I am.

Helps that I have gay relatives who were told it was a phase, wrong, misguided or a choice. I've watched them have their 'motivations' and 'selfishness' - and their bodies - discussed by others. (I stood up for them, yes.) I saw how they were vilified. How they were dismissed as less than human, mentally ill and predatory.

I know that today's hostility to trans and nb people is a repeat of the homophobic panic of decades ago.

I know to accept and celebrate who I am. Once I've fully come to terms with it. And on this journey I have been endlessly supported by LGBTQIA+ people. It's been humbling. But also, completely nondescript and ordinary. Because it's a really small part of who I am.

I said non-binary people had being attacked in common. That's all. Please try to read my actual words rather than decide what I wrote then reply to that.

Nothing exterior affects the person I am, that's just your projection.

I would rather not be nb but am proud of who I am nonetheless, and barely anyone I know even knows about it.

I only don't explain because of bigotry, prejudice and the tiresomeness of explaining. My mother is 83, and though she supports my trans son it would be an immense bore having to explain being nb to her.

I also have some Britain First types within my stepfamily, and would rather keep my head down.

I don't feel I have a gender, which is why I identify as nb. Others will differ.

I don't give a damn what other people think of me and prefer to be left alone.

Suggesting I'm only nb for attention absolutely proves my point about bigotry, thank you. I keep myself to myself irl to avoid people like you.

Nb people are different but share two important characteristics: we know we're not a binary gender, and people attack us for it.

Can you explain what it means to be or not to be a 'binary gender'? Many of us don't think we 'are' or 'have' a gender, because gender is something which is externally imposed on us by society. I really don't understand what people mean when they say they 'are' or 'have' a gender.

What does other people's reaction (who attack you for it) have to do with anything? How can other people attacking you be an important characteristic of yours? Other people's reaction to you can't be an important characteristic which you have because it's something which is done to you, not part of your identity. If everyone was very accepting of NB identities, so that nobody ever attacked you, would your NB identity cease to exist?