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US women’s sports star Sophie Cunningham speaking up on defending women's sports

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fromorbit · 24/07/2026 08:05

Big development. In the US few big women's sports stars have dared to speak up in the defence of women having sports. Lots of coverage of this going viral. Demands that the WBNA [Women's Basketball league] take action against her.

Sophie Cunningham says it’s ‘common sense’ to keep trans athletes out of women’s sports

In the ESPN article, Cunningham said she wanted to “protect young girls in the locker room” and that “they shouldn’t have to go against biological men.”

“I said what I said. I think it’s kind of common sense,” Cunningham said before Indiana’s 123-88 victory over the Connecticut Sun on Wednesday. “And I think I’ll always believe in that. I think it’s really important to protect children, and that’s little girls who are also involved in that category. I stand on what I said.”

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7464960/2026/07/22/sophie-cunningham-trans-comments-womens-sports/

Trump Whitehouse speaking up in Cunningham's support so getting political.
https://www.aol.com/articles/sophie-cunningham-backed-white-house-003500000.html

Despite the recent Supreme Court verdict which said women can have sports a lot of Democratic leading states are continuing to say they should not have their own sports, but only mixed sex competitions.

Likely to be an ongoing political issue and be a topic in the upcoming midterms.

Sophie Cunningham says it’s ‘common sense’ to keep trans athletes out of women’s sports

In an ESPN article, the Indiana Fever guard said that girls and women "shouldn't have to go against biological men."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7464960/2026/07/22/sophie-cunningham-trans-comments-womens-sports/

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Helleofabore · Yesterday 02:59

Isn’t it interesting that there are people who immediately try to distract from the issue which is anyone person who is considered male under the current IOC sex screening tests by limiting the discussion to male people with transgender identities.

No male person who has a body formed around the production of small gametes where that body has ever had the ability to produce testosterone at male levels and the ability to process that testosterone to virilise along a male pathway should be included in female sports categories. This is the OIC policy now and the policy of a growing number of sporting regulators.

The narrowing of the discussion seems to be a rather obvious distraction technique and distortion of the discussion.

Helleofabore · Yesterday 03:04

Mouldemort · 07/08/2026 21:51

It's a right wing grift. She's following in the footsteps of other women who are acceptable to anti-trans conservatives, and she will be living off this grift for years. There are literally no trans women in the WBNA and their never have been.

Fortunately, there are other women athletes who do support trans rights such as the awesome Gabby Williams.

"“There’s a lot of discourse around trans athletes and what they can compete in. I would welcome a trans athlete on my team or against my team. Anytime,” Williams said. “I don’t think it’s a problem in the world, it’s just another way to kind of attack trans people.”

Head coach Natalie Nakase also supports transgender people:

“I’m big on that because I have been criticized for my height, for my ethnicity. I’ve been in those ‘you shouldn’t belong here,’ [moments] and for me I don’t want that space, especially Golden State, to ever feel like that. I’m all about women, little girls deserving to play, and that includes trans women. So I’m all about inclusivity.”

It's the usual right wing wedges issues, supported by useful idiots in the gender critical movement. If you think they care a bit about women in sport you are a fool.

https://bsky.app/profile/twinskippy.bsky.social/post/3mshg5ybxic2v

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And a sex screening test within a policy that specifically excludes male athletes who have male pubertal advantages along with current anti-doping tests and policies will fully support the prevention of female athletes being wrongly accused of being male.

Helleofabore · Yesterday 03:06

The female tennis players have been asked the question over this week about sex screening and are in support.

It is remarkable to see basketball and football in the USA is still not setting policy to follow the same policy as the OIC.

Helleofabore · Yesterday 03:09

JanesLittleGirl · 07/08/2026 22:38

So How is it going for you now? I have no idea whether there are none or some TiMs competing in the WNBA but I am pretty damn certain that 'personality traits' should not be used as a qualifier.

Gosh… imagine a sport with protected categories based on personality traits and behaviours!

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 05:56

BlueSky and Wikipedia are always reliable and sound sources to link to when verification is needed for reality denying opinions.

fromorbit · Yesterday 07:39

Mouldemort · 07/08/2026 21:51

It's a right wing grift. She's following in the footsteps of other women who are acceptable to anti-trans conservatives, and she will be living off this grift for years. There are literally no trans women in the WBNA and their never have been.

Fortunately, there are other women athletes who do support trans rights such as the awesome Gabby Williams.

"“There’s a lot of discourse around trans athletes and what they can compete in. I would welcome a trans athlete on my team or against my team. Anytime,” Williams said. “I don’t think it’s a problem in the world, it’s just another way to kind of attack trans people.”

Head coach Natalie Nakase also supports transgender people:

“I’m big on that because I have been criticized for my height, for my ethnicity. I’ve been in those ‘you shouldn’t belong here,’ [moments] and for me I don’t want that space, especially Golden State, to ever feel like that. I’m all about women, little girls deserving to play, and that includes trans women. So I’m all about inclusivity.”

It's the usual right wing wedges issues, supported by useful idiots in the gender critical movement. If you think they care a bit about women in sport you are a fool.

https://bsky.app/profile/twinskippy.bsky.social/post/3mshg5ybxic2v

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Yeah a bunch of coaches back mixed sports so what. Notice there are not tonnes of players saying the same thing. Because they like having a JOB.

The actually grift is the thousands of men in dresses winning female prizes and status when men's sport already absolutely dominates the sporting world.

We have the receipts.
https://hecheated.org/

The thing is NONE of these sporty men in dresses are "trans" anyway if you think about it. If you know any typical "trans" males most of them despise sports because they are not typical males - they can be awful too obviously, but they generally elicit some sympathy. The Jocks in dresses are on average the creepiest crossdressers who are the most aggressive, sports obsessed guys, who will do anything to win and like telling women what to do - but they like to do it while wearing a skirt. You know the type of guy who hits his wife because a team lost a game thousands of males away.

Only they can't handle competing with men as they might lose so they go in the women's category. Is there anything more male.?

Notice there is no discussion about trans females in sports. Obviously they tend to lose against men for a start but also trans females don't care that men are the best at football rugby etc. They don't obsess about getting into teams and competing which men like doing even if they are bad. Many men love team sports, most women don't. This is not just socialisation, this is different psychology.

Women love fitness and activity if they get the chance, but they graduate towards different activities on average. Which is fine!!! A big problem is we don't actually think women's choices are valid, because we focus on male obsessions.

HECHEATED

A record of MALES who have robbed FEMALE athletes of success and opportunities in sport and the organizations who have helped them do so.

https://hecheated.org

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MarjorieWestriding · Yesterday 08:19

Basketball player Enes Kanter Freedom, who is 6ft 10in, has announced he's applying to join the WNBA.

"After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I'm officially declaring myself a WNBA prospect. If simply declaring who you are is all that's required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA,"

"My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA's eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027," he said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/wnba-scrambling-now-fans-react-043255918.html

“WNBA Scrambling Right Now”: Fans React As Former Celtics Center Enes Kanter Freedom Declares Himself A WNBA Prospect

The WNBA world has been shaken up after Sophie Cunningham commented about transgender athletes. She believes that it should be “common sense” that biological men aren’t allowed to participate in women’s sports.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/wnba-scrambling-now-fans-react-043255918.html

SidewaysOtter · Yesterday 13:16

Good work that man!

fromorbit · Yesterday 20:19

Alert Thanks to Sophie and the guys aiming to join the WBNA.
WBNA are having a meeting next week to discuss what a woman is.
That is going to be a very special meeting.
Engelbert: WNBA to continue talks about transgender athletes next week
Engelbert wrote that the league will "always approach this topic thoughtfully, respectfully, and in alignment with the longstanding values of our league. Second, our player eligibility rules, unlike the eligibility rules of some other leagues and governing bodies, are collectively bargained. Lastly, preserving the integrity of our game and ensuring fair competition will always remain among the league's highest priorities."
The league's collective bargaining agreement states that "only players who are women are eligible to play in the WNBA," but it does not include any more specific language about gender identity or sex assigned at birth. On Friday, two former NBA players, Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White, declared themselves eligible for the WNBA draft, saying they identify as women.
"We recognize that this is a complex and nuanced topic, and we will continue to have important conversations with all of you and the Players Association in the weeks and months ahead," Engelbert said in the memo. "We also plan to convene additional discussions and offer listening sessions for any team leaders who would like to participate. Your perspectives and feedback are invaluable, and I appreciate those who have already reached out to share their thoughts."
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49561324/engelbert-wnba-continue-transgender-discussion

Engelbert: WNBA to continue talks about transgender athletes next week

WNBA commissioner Cathy Engelbert sent a memo to teams that addresses ongoing discussions around transgender athletes in women's basketball.

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49561324/engelbert-wnba-continue-transgender-discussion

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1984Now · Yesterday 21:37

They're just gonna go around and around in circles until they get permanent vertigo.
TRAs forcing the consensus that men can play in women's sports is the literal rubicon moment for the schism.
Sport depends on absolute adherence to rules, and absolute agreement on reality.
Winning and losing depends on mere microseconds, the slightest advantage or disadvantage.
Male advantage, starting at male puberty, is all that matters here, GCs like us know it, TRAs know it, and the sports authorities and their doctors/physiologists know it.
That's why TRAs are so desperate to crack women's sport, because of a couple of things.
First, it absolutely shatters women's confidence and self worth. Sport is an area women can contend and rise to the top without male entitlement in the way.
Warp the women's category, and women's rights effectively collapse.
Secondly, the TRAs winning this battle effectively win the prize of language and ideas.
Change things so that males can play in women's sports, and effectively nothing means what it means anymore.
Language, science, societal norms and development are all crushed.
Society allows men in women's sports, then everything is up for grabs.

Subaroo · Today 00:41

I'm really enjoying this turn of events. If the WNBA decides a woman is anyone who says they are, they'll have to let these men join the practices. I won't be surprised if they try to waffle their way out of this. Which will not please the gender people. I'm sure there will be more men joining in.

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fromorbit · Today 02:21

1984Now · Yesterday 21:37

They're just gonna go around and around in circles until they get permanent vertigo.
TRAs forcing the consensus that men can play in women's sports is the literal rubicon moment for the schism.
Sport depends on absolute adherence to rules, and absolute agreement on reality.
Winning and losing depends on mere microseconds, the slightest advantage or disadvantage.
Male advantage, starting at male puberty, is all that matters here, GCs like us know it, TRAs know it, and the sports authorities and their doctors/physiologists know it.
That's why TRAs are so desperate to crack women's sport, because of a couple of things.
First, it absolutely shatters women's confidence and self worth. Sport is an area women can contend and rise to the top without male entitlement in the way.
Warp the women's category, and women's rights effectively collapse.
Secondly, the TRAs winning this battle effectively win the prize of language and ideas.
Change things so that males can play in women's sports, and effectively nothing means what it means anymore.
Language, science, societal norms and development are all crushed.
Society allows men in women's sports, then everything is up for grabs.

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Agreed.

Controlling women's sports is absolutely vital to the Trans activists.

They have a big problem though. Sports is a male focus so that is more likely to drag guys into the debate eventually. The men obviously are going to say men are stronger.

The TAs do not want to argue with other men. They are not interested in confronting Muslim/Christians who dislike trans ideas to anywhere near the same level as confronting women.

Now we are seeing the fallout.

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1984Now · Today 07:54

fromorbit · Today 02:21

Agreed.

Controlling women's sports is absolutely vital to the Trans activists.

They have a big problem though. Sports is a male focus so that is more likely to drag guys into the debate eventually. The men obviously are going to say men are stronger.

The TAs do not want to argue with other men. They are not interested in confronting Muslim/Christians who dislike trans ideas to anywhere near the same level as confronting women.

Now we are seeing the fallout.

I know men who shrug their shoulders at men in women's toilets, a bit more agitated with men in women's changing rooms, don't sit well with men in women's refuges, start to get animated with men in women's prisons.
But men in women's sports? NO WAY, JOSÉ!

fromorbit · Today 08:59

1984Now · Today 07:54

I know men who shrug their shoulders at men in women's toilets, a bit more agitated with men in women's changing rooms, don't sit well with men in women's refuges, start to get animated with men in women's prisons.
But men in women's sports? NO WAY, JOSÉ!

100% Of course men are going to kick off over sports eventually. The only thing the TAs have going for them is sexist men often think women's sports is dumb.

When you get certain countries deliberately rigging games by getting men into women's sports it gets attention. As soon as the stealth thing fails some men are going to challenge the whole concept when they see their country losing medals. The whole huge fuss over women's boxing at the Olympics was very telling, so much media discussion, and the impact from that wrecked the TAs plans at Olympic / athletics level.

At the same time we have horrific stuff going on in changing rooms/prisons and it just doesn't generate the same outrage.

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ItsCoolForCats · Today 09:18

This was the headline on Sports Illustrated (they've changed it now) 😐

Apparently, that particularly vicious foul was just karma for SC for saying men shouldn't play in women's basketball

US women’s sports star Sophie Cunningham  speaking up on defending women's sports
1984Now · Today 09:19

fromorbit · Today 08:59

100% Of course men are going to kick off over sports eventually. The only thing the TAs have going for them is sexist men often think women's sports is dumb.

When you get certain countries deliberately rigging games by getting men into women's sports it gets attention. As soon as the stealth thing fails some men are going to challenge the whole concept when they see their country losing medals. The whole huge fuss over women's boxing at the Olympics was very telling, so much media discussion, and the impact from that wrecked the TAs plans at Olympic / athletics level.

At the same time we have horrific stuff going on in changing rooms/prisons and it just doesn't generate the same outrage.

Look at the 6'10" male ex-pro attempting to sign up with the WBNA.
Would he have said anything if he was a current player and had sponsorship deals and personal ratings to lose?
Especially back in the dark days of cancel culture, 2018-2023.
Even now, where are the males in pro sport speaking out? I'm not seeing any of them take a stand.
All that men can provide, retired players, most notably Daley Thompson in the last few years.

ItsCoolForCats · Today 09:28

Subaroo · Today 00:41

I'm really enjoying this turn of events. If the WNBA decides a woman is anyone who says they are, they'll have to let these men join the practices. I won't be surprised if they try to waffle their way out of this. Which will not please the gender people. I'm sure there will be more men joining in.

They might come up with some nonsense policy where they say that any "woman" who has been taking hormones for two years will be eligible. That will rule out the two former NBA players. Didn't some sporting bodies in the UK have policies like that before finally tightening them up? The US has a long way to go.

fromorbit · Today 09:35

1984Now · Today 09:19

Look at the 6'10" male ex-pro attempting to sign up with the WBNA.
Would he have said anything if he was a current player and had sponsorship deals and personal ratings to lose?
Especially back in the dark days of cancel culture, 2018-2023.
Even now, where are the males in pro sport speaking out? I'm not seeing any of them take a stand.
All that men can provide, retired players, most notably Daley Thompson in the last few years.

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Very true. In private most of male sports stars are saying the truth. Very few standing up publicly even when there is not that much risk for them.

However they are not the only significant figures a lot of male sports journalists outside the US seem willing to break ranks they did over the Olympics. That was significant.

The TAs have a lot of power, but their grip on sports is actually fragile because of male egos. Because it relies on other men not stepping up. As soon as a few do it starts collapsing fast.

Noticeably if Sophie hadn't been brave and getting huge push back - the two men doing something now would probably stayed out. Sophie in turn was clearly inspired by other women and girls telling the truth.

It is pretty embarrassing for huge sports jocks to be MORE scared of stepping up than 12 year old girls. Sooner or later that kind of situation was going to fall apart.

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1984Now · Today 09:47

fromorbit · Today 09:35

Very true. In private most of male sports stars are saying the truth. Very few standing up publicly even when there is not that much risk for them.

However they are not the only significant figures a lot of male sports journalists outside the US seem willing to break ranks they did over the Olympics. That was significant.

The TAs have a lot of power, but their grip on sports is actually fragile because of male egos. Because it relies on other men not stepping up. As soon as a few do it starts collapsing fast.

Noticeably if Sophie hadn't been brave and getting huge push back - the two men doing something now would probably stayed out. Sophie in turn was clearly inspired by other women and girls telling the truth.

It is pretty embarrassing for huge sports jocks to be MORE scared of stepping up than 12 year old girls. Sooner or later that kind of situation was going to fall apart.

Was there much fallout over Khelif at the Olympics?
I seem to recall the majority of "journalists" (more and more received opinion/regime narrative propagandists) either kept their heads down or were generally purveying the "Be Kind dont bully the special and vulnerable Khelif"...they didn't even question the validity of DSD males as sports"women".
Only the Guardian's Sean Ingle and Telegraph's Oliver Brown got the facts and tone right.
I recall the Olympics ending and somehow Khelif getting Gold as mainstream accepted, and feeling very peaked that a new (ab)normal was ascendant.

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