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TIFs in single-sex spaces

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MiddleCyclone · 23/07/2026 18:43

Long-time Mumsnet browser (I remember watching penis beaker go semi-viral while I was already on here and god knows how long ago that was), left for a few years after all the trans stuff got too much for me, back to ask a question.

I’m a trans man who’s been on hormones long enough to pass nearly all of the time, who finally stopped using the women’s loos a couple of years back when a young girl watched me drying my hands and yelped “Mummy there’s a boy in here!”.

If the new guidance on single-sex spaces is to be followed I, read mostly as male (well, as a man), should go back in there and keep having these interactions, and keep making women and girls uncomfortable with my presence. Surely this can’t be the ideal outcome? It feels like the legislation has completely overlooked this.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/07/2026 18:53

Another post on passing TM and toilets - they are like buses at times

@seethlaw is a TM who posts here regularly who I'm sure would be able to give you the benefit of their experience

spannasaurus · 23/07/2026 18:53

MiddleCyclone · 23/07/2026 18:51

Many places don’t have unisex toilets available at the moment. Do you think we’ll see more places adding them/relabeling their toilets as unisex to get round this? The other obvious option is using the disabled/baby change single stall but I object to that as a nondisabled person (I object to disabled and baby changing facilities getting lumped together 90% of the time too, but that’s another point)

I've heard other TIFs mention apps that show the location of unisex toilets so maybe that's something you could look into

AimsAndObjectives · 23/07/2026 18:51

MiddleCyclone · 23/07/2026 18:43

Long-time Mumsnet browser (I remember watching penis beaker go semi-viral while I was already on here and god knows how long ago that was), left for a few years after all the trans stuff got too much for me, back to ask a question.

I’m a trans man who’s been on hormones long enough to pass nearly all of the time, who finally stopped using the women’s loos a couple of years back when a young girl watched me drying my hands and yelped “Mummy there’s a boy in here!”.

If the new guidance on single-sex spaces is to be followed I, read mostly as male (well, as a man), should go back in there and keep having these interactions, and keep making women and girls uncomfortable with my presence. Surely this can’t be the ideal outcome? It feels like the legislation has completely overlooked this.

If you think that you will make women and girls uncomfortable, then use gender neutral facilities.

MiddleCyclone · 23/07/2026 18:51

spannasaurus · 23/07/2026 18:47

You could be asked by a service provider to use unisex facilities instead of the female ones. This was covered in the supreme court judgment

Many places don’t have unisex toilets available at the moment. Do you think we’ll see more places adding them/relabeling their toilets as unisex to get round this? The other obvious option is using the disabled/baby change single stall but I object to that as a nondisabled person (I object to disabled and baby changing facilities getting lumped together 90% of the time too, but that’s another point)

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spannasaurus · 23/07/2026 18:47

MiddleCyclone · 23/07/2026 18:43

Long-time Mumsnet browser (I remember watching penis beaker go semi-viral while I was already on here and god knows how long ago that was), left for a few years after all the trans stuff got too much for me, back to ask a question.

I’m a trans man who’s been on hormones long enough to pass nearly all of the time, who finally stopped using the women’s loos a couple of years back when a young girl watched me drying my hands and yelped “Mummy there’s a boy in here!”.

If the new guidance on single-sex spaces is to be followed I, read mostly as male (well, as a man), should go back in there and keep having these interactions, and keep making women and girls uncomfortable with my presence. Surely this can’t be the ideal outcome? It feels like the legislation has completely overlooked this.

You could be asked by a service provider to use unisex facilities instead of the female ones. This was covered in the supreme court judgment