STOP MIS GENDERING ME JUST SAY SHE

I swear they only do it to piss people off.

Yeah, but I have to buy food, so leaving isn't an option.

I knew where everything was! Why move it, you bastards?

They called him by his name repeatedly @Anyahyacinth. He is clearly a well known problem. A violent man throwing a tantrum because he was told no. What makes him vulnerable when it took two male police officers to handcuff him?

The only thing he was suffering was being called HE.

Unless I misunderstood the audio I think that the officer mentioned their name, which suggests that this is not their first rodeo.

I'm not remembering any please and thankyou mid-meltdown either. That he is, tells me that it's a tantrum (trantrum? mantrum?) not a meltdown.

This person was asking to be called a particular thing and instead was pepper sprayed. A decent police officer could have asked for the persons name. The coverage I’ve seen suggests they will have a massive successful lawsuit for a disproportionate intervention. The rest is just being a bullying mob to someone who is clearly suffering.
Picking on a vulnerable person is just the worst. Inhumane thread.

Dear apologists for violent men,

Stop blaming "autism" for men being violent.

I and my diagnosis are not a figleaf for the shitty entitled behaviour of violent men.

Yours faithfully,
an autistic woman.

@selffellatingouroborosofhate The worst is when the supermarket does have everything in stock, because you checked the app before you went, but they have MOVED everything since the last time you were there.

My instinct is always flight. Abandon task and get out.

When the officer said ok I’m gonna spray HER he said thank you lol didn’t care he was about to get a face full of pepper spray as long as he was called by the right pronouns

Look, whether someone's dangerous behaviour is precipitated from bad intentions or poor mental health is irrelevant to the danger placed on others.

Unfortunately, we are living in a society where (as pp clearly demonstrate) the latter is being used as an excuse for acceptability of dangerous behaviour.

Saying that we must accept dangerous behaviour because 'autism' creates yet another safeguarding loophole that bad characters will hide behind. It is not ableist to point this out.

I have had many supermarket meltdowns in which I have ended up sitting on the floor crying because something isn't there and it's too hot/bright/noisy or I'm dehydrated. I have yet to behave so atrociously that I have even been asked to leave, never mind have the police called.

It's almost like I'm female and he's male.

I feel as if he needed to be put in a police cell for everyone’s safety so he could calm down quietly before hopefully being taken to an appropriate facility. You can’t have people this angry and distressed wandering the streets shouting at everyone. He needs some kind of help.

Society has let this madness get out of control. The pp saying the police escalated this, wtf. Being compelled to lie got us into this bloody mess.

These men are mentally unstable, and used to getting their own way. Imagine him behaving like that to a female.

Well exactly.

This is just another "it's MAA'AM" moment but with more screeching.

The actual film starts at 15 seconds. The bit at the very beginning, with the 'misgendering', is an excerpt from later on. He starts screaming before the officer can even get a word out.

Well said!

They are entitled arseholes.

It's harmful to autistic people, especially autistic women, for men's shitty behaviour to be blamed on autism.

Really? You have managed to diagnose autism from him being 'trans' and his behaviour on an 8 minute YouTube video?

And from my doubt on your expert analysis, you label me 'ableist'? With no thought that this might be actually insulting to autistic people?

Ok then.

Entirely agree. I didn’t see anything in that video that would suggest that he’s Autistic. I’m privileged to have many wonderful Autistic young people in my life and I couldn’t imagine any of them behaving like that, even in a full-on sensory meltdown. The young man in the video is either profoundly mentally unwell or just another entitled AGP dickhead.

When I'm having a meltdown, the pronouns other people use about me are not important. Autism doesn't automatically mean being delusional about one's sex.

Autistic people make up 40% of the kids referred to Tavi, so massively overrepresented in the trans-identifying population but still not "very likely" because 40% is less than half.

I was thinking the same thing. He’s bolshie with a policeman who has a taser etc. His cough only softened a little when it was obvious the policeman wasn’t going to indulge him. Whist another Man would be better able to physically deal with him, it still took two police men to cuff him.

Imagine if he was in an enclosed space like toilets or changing rooms with a woman/women. I suspect if you even looked at him, he might be a potential danger if he was inclined to take a look as a challenge. Not saying he has done anything like that, but I personally wouldn’t take a chance as he is aggressive and volatile. I would regard him as a potential danger (just my honest opinion) and high tail it out of any enclosed space he was in.

I don’t know anyone who is autistic and trans. My circle of people with ASD is large.

I do however know people who claim to be trans who have learning disabilities. Different diagnosis.

Mental health is causing the behaviour. I couldn't care a less if the individual is or isn't autistic; that isn't the cause.

He, like many of these transwomen, seems very deeply unwell. Not too long ago he and those like him would be sectioned and in an asylum getting treatment. The whole of society suffers when people like this are unsectioned.