STOP MIS GENDERING ME JUST SAY SHE

Mate. It's the Equality Act 2010. I didn't pull it out of my arse.. or a work of magical fiction

Do you think there ever will be a decent argument? It’s been such a long time and none of the genderists have yet managed one. We can see the efforts on this thread.

It's not difficult. It's just not comfortable for you for some reason. So l, there is female and there is male.. and in the world you wish to habit, females are absolutely female and feel female and males are absolutely male and feel male. Them there are those that absolutely genuinely feel trapped in a body that they in no way identify with. Despite how you object to this, it is the cases. You don't like this concept I realise and I sympathise with you having to imagine this grey area. But there is. A very simplified version, admittedly.

Mate. Come back to me when you have done your homework and can debate the issues properly. I think we are a little past Google level pretend play here.

You can brush up on why it's all JKRowlings fault whilst you are at it. I'm sure all the answers can be well sourced off a reputable website.

We'll just play plopper bingo whilst you think you are being dead clever.

One day someone will come along with an original argument won't they?

Anyway as I say goodnight.

is it possible to get mumsnet to verify this i wonder? Although I absolutely can't believe it matters that much. But they will obviously be able to see that I have been posting for very many years.

I can't believe it's not believable that I'm a 54-year-old menopausal woman just because I don't agree with you. That's a scary concept.. people don't always agree you know that right?

Can you give an example of a “grey area” as it pertains to gender ideology?

Some people have their heads in the sand. These are real situations. This is real life. There are grey areas. They might not be comfortable for you all, but they are there.

Mumsnet is a dangerous place. I am a middle-class, educated, middle-aged woman. 7-8 years ago I was on here arguing for the other side. I didn’t believe people could change sex, but I was all “be kind”, “most vulnerable”.

Mumsnet radicalised me 😀. Do I get a T-shirt?

I like to think I’d have eventually recognised gender ideology for the regressive, misogynistic tripe it is though.

It was plain old Google actually Bridget. Thanks for the congrats tho.. it means such a lot when people are being such "meanies" 🤣

Cool, I imagine there will be some late night posts (uk time)

It hasn’t logged me out but the app was playing up a bit, so I used the mobile site while that was happening.

@DetectiveDouche the protected characteristic, afforded in the GRA, and the EQA puts certain duties (with limitation and exceptions) on public bodies and services.

It does not apply to individuals at all, outside of workplaces or as service providers.

As a matter of law i am perfectly entitled to express offensive opinions about, race, religion, sexuality and political views.

it is called freedom of speech.

And as for mumsnet and this board, you may not know this, but it is the main forum for organising activism, to prevent curtailing freedom of speech and legally challenge the excessive activities of genderism, and silencing women.

Poo poo us all you like, we are not just well informed, we are organised in an ad hoc way and are a force to be reckoned with, seeing to it that women can stand up for our collective rights, in our courts and on our streets.

so you can come on here and snivel to the alter of genderism until the cows come home all you like.

It has no effect no power just a load of boo hoo.

oh and menopausal woman , my arse.

Most children will grow out of believing they are trans given time. It’s why watchful waiting is recommended. It’s ok to say you understand they feel this way but it’s important to understand the why through talking therapy.

The idea that a child should be set on a path of lifelong medicalisation, possible sterilisation and mutilation of healthy tissues in affirmation of an idea they may very well grow out of given time and support is abhorrent.

Anyone else having Cloudflare issues? It keeps logging me out.

Might have to try a different device.

Will be a while, no doubt. Good luck with The Law and all!

This is such a ridiculous bad faith take on FWR, not accurate at all in any way.

You may as well just stomp your (possibly man sized foot) and scream into the void "Damn those pesky women with their reality, facts and well worded arguments! Why won't they just nod, smile, and agree to let men do what they want?"😂

I am in Aus and waiting for kids to get ready for school before I go to work. This is a nice diversion before the day starts 😀

I see ChatGPT finally came through for you! Congratulations!

Did it tell you that the protected characteristic of "gender reassignment" means that a man who is "gender reassigned" cannot be treated any worse than a man who isn't "gender reassigned?"

The comparator to a trans-identified person is a non-trans-identified person OF THE SAME SEX.

If we can call a man a man, we can also call a "transwoman" a man because THEY ARE BOTH MEN.

And you cannot refuse to give one man a job simply because he is trans-identified, if you would have given it to him if he had not been trans-identified.

There are more examples, but that's all it means.

There is NO LAW that says that we cannot call a "transwoman" a man.

If you have find any more laws, please do let us know.

Where does it say “in the law” that trans people are trans people? Is the blue-wigged stripy socked adult man having a tanty a woman “in the law”? Do you see him as a woman?

Look, people can identify as they like - and they do. If a 35 year old man wears stockings and stripy socks or whatever and says he’s a woman, he might believe he is ( except he doesn’t really, does he)

But - you can’t MAKE other people believe it. You can try to emotionally manipulate them (trauma, distress, most vulnerable) or by philosophical arguments (how many genders fit on a pin head) but you can’t make them believe it.

Yes, there have always been cross-dressing men. It doesn’t mean people can change sex.

Sanity Island.

Where every bit of batshit thrown at it just makes it grow bigger 🙂

Well we’re all giving the mods a workout aren’t we?

Well, quite. But people do like to be picked.

I certainly might not be right...

But even if I'm not, this kind of thread always adds to the mountain of Socratic clarification of the issues and dismantling of the bollocks that is then out there to help others to think. So chapeau Douche.