Don't Call Me Queer - The LGB and TQ+ Must Split Campaign

Being bisexual includes being same sex attracted or you would be heterosexual. The element covered by LGB is the same sex part.

Pansexual is still bisexual. There are only 2 sexes to pan.

I’ve always found LBGQT+ such a contradiction. How does homosexuality exist if gender is fluid?

of course they should split - the Emma corrins of this world for example appropriating the genuine discrimination faced and still facing LGB people because they is queer & non binary and sad they gets called she sometimes except when winning awards where they bravely puts aside their ongoing oppression to accept the awards

trans ppl do face genuine discrimination as well but they are still not the opposite sex and gender identity and sexuality are not the same thing

LGB ppl need their own support
T ppl needs their own support

and the "Q" if it doesn't fit in either of the above needs to grow the fuck up

What's particularly great about this campaign is that everyone who wants to "identify" as queer, asexual (or not, if that doesn't feel right) etc can continue to do so. All of that fits really well in the TQ+

I'm straight but I fully support LGB people making a line in the sand. Sexual orientation/attraction is totally different from gender identity. They are two totally different concepts, as has been said above.

If they get muddled up as concepts, someone's sexual orientation can end up being altered by someone else.

For example, I am a woman and I am married to a man. Neither my husband or I have ever had same-sex relationships. If I identify as a man (which is only possible in the TQ+ world) and we stay married, my husband has now become gay or queer (in the TQ+ world). My actions have changed his sexual orientation, in TQ+ terms. Sex, sexual orientation and gender identity have all become an interchangable muddle.

In the LGB world, even if I do identify as a man this hasn't changed my sex. Which means I'm still in a heterosexual relationship.

I'm very happy for TQ+ people to enjoy and celebrate the muddle that results from not worrying about the difference between sex, sexual orientation and the idea that everyone has a gender identity, as long as they aren't impacting anyone who doesn't consent to it. For example, males identifying into lesbianism and expecting lesbian* women to be OK with that is as much a no as males identifying into women's sports and expecting the same accommodation.

*There is no such thing as a lesbian who is attracted to males.

All words are made up 😂

Under that, I'm part of it, asexual but I'd never call myself that, I just say I'm happily single, or single by choice, and am I queer, No the fuck I'm not, nor do I need trains painted for me, no one has ever asked if I'm in a relationship and having a shag in it because why would they?
It's attention seeking nonsense.

All words are made up...

Being LGB is about which biological sex you’re attracted to, regardless of whether someone identifies as a gender.

Being T is about what gender you identify as, which is very likely different from your sex.

Two completely different concepts.

If you want to be an ally to LGB people, don’t derail the thread with a load of talk about cisgender & pansexuality.

Bisexuality wasn't just same sex attraction last time I looked

I like words and language though!

Must be why you posted so many made up ones. 😂

Also the Q can mean questioning.

Because LGB are to do with sexuality, right? But then is Pansexual included in the plus, and should that be included with the LGB, or by excluding the T+ are you saying that pansexuality isn't a thing? I'm a straight, cisgender ally (my DH isn't straight), for what it's worth. I like words and language though!

Sounds sensible! The TQ+ interests are diametrically opposed to the LGB.

More power to their elbows!