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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cancellation of WRN NI event at Féile festival.

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SexRealistic · 21/07/2026 21:15

Did anyone catch up with the cancellation of WRN NIs event at Féile and Phobail festivak today?

Apparently it’s ‘anti trans’ except the event was about women’s voices being heard.

JKR offered to fund….

Cancellation of WRN NI event at Féile festival.
Cancellation of WRN NI event at Féile festival.
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BeKindWisely · 28/07/2026 15:53

fromorbit · 28/07/2026 15:09

Listen here. It was with Helen Joyce. She came off well as usual.

“You haven’t been silenced!”

“We have literally just been cancelled.”

HJoyceGender debates Allison Morris about Féile an Phobail cancelling a WRN_NI
event.

https://nitter.net/SexMattersOrg/status/2082092717979369841

That was sooooo uncomfortable!

It is so difficult, painful even, hearing someone's blind spot and how close and yet so far the crossing over the chasm us.

I felt like I was listening from high above and could see it all - what Helen was trying to say and I could see so clearly, but how Alison was hearing it all through an existing filter and there was just no way through.

It's like the blind man and the elephant analogy, I think?

The links with/aligning far right aspects reminded me so much of the incredibly frustrating thread discussions with Cassie Maddocks/Adam something(?) poster during general election time.

For me, the psychological effect of even witnessing these interactions, let alone engaging in them, does have that silent scream in a dream quality.

The reason I avoid going there with friends who I know see things and perceive similarly to Alison here, is that I don't feel equipped to reach effectively across that chasm. Other than initially just to name it's existence maybe.

spannasaurus · 28/07/2026 15:54

Towards the end of that interview, Allison talks about predatory men being devious and the lengths they will go to to get access to vulnerable woman such as becoming priests and coaches but she doesn't think that these same men might identify as women to get access

TheCandidPoet · 28/07/2026 15:56

I'd say Allison just fell off her pink cloud with a thump!

I left Belfast years ago but her whiny ranting catapulted me back to the wee tween bitches who shouted 'My mammy says you lot breed like flies!' at me.

Helen Joyce is a fking queen. How does she keep her cool?

fromorbit · 28/07/2026 15:59

spannasaurus · 28/07/2026 15:54

Towards the end of that interview, Allison talks about predatory men being devious and the lengths they will go to to get access to vulnerable woman such as becoming priests and coaches but she doesn't think that these same men might identify as women to get access

Crazy. Yet we see it again and again the magic men in dresses effect.

It is way easier to put on a dress than become a Priest. Somehow no male predator would think of doing it though. Even if we put aside the fetish side.

BeKindWisely · 28/07/2026 16:00

spannasaurus · 28/07/2026 15:54

Towards the end of that interview, Allison talks about predatory men being devious and the lengths they will go to to get access to vulnerable woman such as becoming priests and coaches but she doesn't think that these same men might identify as women to get access

Yes this! Exactly! Key blind spot moment

ItsCoolForCats · 28/07/2026 16:00

UtopiaPlanitia · 28/07/2026 15:53

I thought William Crawley did a good job of ensuring they both spoke. Morris really didn't want to let Helen Joyce get a word in - she kept blustering and spluttering so much in indignance every time Joyce made a point.

I'm also glad that Crawley clarified that Joyce was supportive of the judgement about removing boys from girls sport made by the US Supreme Court, and not via any legislation enacted by the Trump administration. Morris was deliberately being unclear on that issue as an attempt to smear guilt by association and wouldn't even admit it when the truth was pointed out by both Joyce and the presenter.

I think Morris made a show of herself to be honest. I don't think she came across well as a journalist because she stated so many factual inaccuracies and refused to accept when she had been wrong. I hope Helen Joyce does actually write to the Belfast Telegraph regarding the falsehoods in the article.

Yes, I agree. He seemed quite across the issues and I think the fact that he challenged some of AM's assertions contributed to her getting so angry. I think she was expecting an easier ride. I am so glad they invited HJ on 😄

I would imagine HJ will definitely follow up on her plans to write to the BT. Do you think they will publish her letter?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 28/07/2026 16:00

Wow. Well Allison certainly showed who is the vile toxic side in this debate. Shame on her.

MyAmpleSheep · 28/07/2026 16:03

That was one of the most extreme examples of left-wing identity politics, and more straw-manning from a real journalist than I've ever heard before. Really quite extraordinary and incoherent points from Morris.

UtopiaPlanitia · 28/07/2026 16:04

spannasaurus · 28/07/2026 15:54

Towards the end of that interview, Allison talks about predatory men being devious and the lengths they will go to to get access to vulnerable woman such as becoming priests and coaches but she doesn't think that these same men might identify as women to get access

She seems to have this belief that all men who claim to be women are as non-violent as women and would never commit a crime. I mean we had a recent criminal case where a trans-identifed man attacked a neighbour.

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/transgender-woman-avoids-jail-over-33699593

James also successfully sued to be placed in with women prisoners:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2w3q10lno

Transgender woman avoids jail over homophobic attack on neighbour

The judge warned the defendant that if there was any breach or further offence, she could face going to prison.

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/transgender-woman-avoids-jail-over-33699593

spannasaurus · 28/07/2026 16:14

It seemed to me that Allison had read what other people had said about WRN and Sex Matters rather than reading what they actually say themselves

fromorbit · 28/07/2026 16:16

TheCandidPoet · 28/07/2026 15:56

I'd say Allison just fell off her pink cloud with a thump!

I left Belfast years ago but her whiny ranting catapulted me back to the wee tween bitches who shouted 'My mammy says you lot breed like flies!' at me.

Helen Joyce is a fking queen. How does she keep her cool?

She is amazing. Most of us would lose it.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 28/07/2026 16:43

MyAmpleSheep · 28/07/2026 16:03

That was one of the most extreme examples of left-wing identity politics, and more straw-manning from a real journalist than I've ever heard before. Really quite extraordinary and incoherent points from Morris.

She really had nothing other than screaming far right, trump, musk, sectarianism. Scarlet for her.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/07/2026 16:59

Not to defend AM, she's an idiot, but maybe the reason why she was so hostile was because she felt she had been sandbagged. She agreed to go on thinking she would be debating with a rep of WRN NI, instead she ended up going head to head with HELEN JOYCE 😱. AM is clearly not in HJ's league, perhaps she thought she was just going to 'educate' a country bumpkin WRN activist and instead she was the one who got 'schooled'. 😂

PrettyDamnCosmic · 28/07/2026 17:42

AM's defence that couldn't have been any falsehoods in the article because nothing had been retracted therefore there couldn't have been any falsehoods was particularly thin.
She must have trans relative to be this angry & mendacious.

spannasaurus · 28/07/2026 17:49

PrettyDamnCosmic · 28/07/2026 17:42

AM's defence that couldn't have been any falsehoods in the article because nothing had been retracted therefore there couldn't have been any falsehoods was particularly thin.
She must have trans relative to be this angry & mendacious.

We will have to keep an eye out to see of anything is retracted once HJ makes her complaint.

When Allison was told it was false that JKR was funding the case her response was not yet.

DworkinWasRight · 28/07/2026 18:24

Allison came across as being both remarkably stupid and exceptionally unpleasant, which is rarely a winning combination.

I’m amazed at how calm and eloquent Helen always is. I’d have wanted just to shout at the ghastly woman.

BezMills · 28/07/2026 19:04

UtopiaPlanitia · 28/07/2026 15:38

Listening to it now and Morris is just refusing to accept that she's wrong and didn't do her research. She's trying to do a smear job with her guilt by association accusations.

Dare we hope for a John Boyne style mea culpa?

RoyalCorgi · 28/07/2026 19:06

A PP said that AM must have known deep down in her heart that she was wrong. I wonder. I think it's quite possible that she believes it. She was so angry, so furious that someone dared to disagree with her.

You would like to think that someone with a reasonable level of education would understand that in a debate, you play the ball, not the man - ie you don't make ad hominem attacks based on "you think X, this other really nasty person also thinks X, therefore X must be wrong". It is so feeble. It's up there with "Hitler was a vegetarian, therefore vegetarianism is bad."

She also seemed to be saying both that she knew exactly what WRN's views are, and that she hadn't had time to research WRN's views.

Helen was clearly vastly more intelligent than she was, as well as more reasonable and more articulate. I wonder what AM was expecting, exactly? Did she think she would face a caricature of a bigoted right-winger? Was she surprised to be up against someone as thoughtful and reasoned as Helen Joyce?

WrongKindOfFeminist · 28/07/2026 19:10

Your link doesn't appear to show that. Seems a nasty bastard was harassing a woman and it was reported roughly correctly other than a few minor details.

TheCandidPoet · 28/07/2026 19:34

WrongKindOfFeminist · 28/07/2026 19:10

Your link doesn't appear to show that. Seems a nasty bastard was harassing a woman and it was reported roughly correctly other than a few minor details.

If you read the IPSO link, the complaint was upheld under two clauses.

I linked the article only to show that it was written by AM. The IPSO report shows where she was wrong in her reporting of the case.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/07/2026 19:45

WrongKindOfFeminist · 28/07/2026 19:10

Your link doesn't appear to show that. Seems a nasty bastard was harassing a woman and it was reported roughly correctly other than a few minor details.

Because of her slipshod reporting she allowed a nasty bastard to cry foul and play the victim.

AlexandraLeaving · 28/07/2026 20:22

UtopiaPlanitia · 27/07/2026 18:37

I would have considered Morris to be a good journalist and she was particularly good at writing about violence against women and girls.

As for her stance in this article, I have some theories:

N Ireland is a conservative society and, despite the ceasefires, still a divided society for a lot of people. One way of signalling that you aren’t conservative or sectarian is to be progressive.

Also, for some from a Nationalist/Republican background, adopting very progressive/liberal politics is a way of showing support for a united Ireland because in the last few decades politics in the Republic of Ireland has become very progressive as a response to a history of social and religious conservatism.

Some political parties in N Ireland have members/politicians who are very religious and as such have a negative attitude towards homosexuality. Liberal people in N Ireland strongly support gay rights and have largely bought into Genderism as being more or less the same thing.

US identity politics ideology also fits in well in societies like ours where people often already view themselves in terms of cultural/religious backgrounds.

As a conservative society, adherence to sex stereotypes is common and in environments like this Genderism blossoms because people who don’t conform to stereotypes see themselves as wrong in some way and are seeking an explanation.

I think this is a really good analysis, and rings true with my experience.

I'm very disappointed to see AM taking this stance. I've had a few dealings with her over the years and have found her generally to be a straight dealer and very decent. She clearly has got the on the wrong bandwagon on this issue. And I imagine PP is right that she expected some conservative wee biddy and shat herself when she realised she was up against Helen Joyce.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/07/2026 20:53

That was a hard listen.Sad

But I kind of get where AM is coming from. She did an opinion piece and got loads of abuse from RW nutjobs. She is naturally going to be on the defense against the right wingers abusing her.

What she doesnt realise is had she done a different opinion piece she'd have received the same abuse, from LW nutjobs.