Well masks are kind of needed for many, passing isn't working.

But yes, the violent threats seem only from one side, and doing it with a mask on is cowardly. Own your bad behaviour.

As *Helleofabore'*s shows, these people want to kill us. Why on earth would we want to try and find common ground with them?

Notice that the person doing the slitting the throat action is masked up and the people that the masked activist has recognised have no masks and and are not acting in any way intimidating

Masks are all part of the costume when LARPing as women. The publicity for Trans Pride 2026 invited attendees to "Use masks, Bring signs, Wear flowers"

londontranspride.org/

Yes around 2014/15 the framing of “trans rights” shifted, both here and in the US.

As an aside, I think 'self-ID' was when the argument lost all connection with logic.

I think before that point there was a sincere belief that if a woman is 'X', advances in medicine would enable a man to fit the criteria for 'X'. There are all sorts of problems with this, but theoretically it could make sense.

Self ID just blasted through the idea that legislation and policy should be based on objective shared understanding of words.

Even if the twitter algorithm throws up the worst examples of abuse from people who oppose sex based rights, and that sign is not representative, the lack of sincere posters presenting a more coherent argument is notable.

People on MN argue vehemently over religion, the economy, breastfeeding, dogs off lead, children at weddings, abortion, grammar schools, assisted dying. These are obviously topics on which people have very strong feelings, but posters representing both sides of an argument are still able to explain a logical point of view.

Obviously MN forums are now known for defending sex based rights, but I don't think it was widely discussed before self ID was proposed. Where were the reasonable voices presenting an opposing argument in 2015? Where are they now?

I would take that as a "Cut-Me-Own-Throat-Dibbler" imitation and laugh at it.

https://x.com/mrmennotweets/status/2081048279240847863?s=46

Another sign for those who wish to believe that both sides are as bad as each other and that feminists are just as bad as the male people who demand that their subjective reality that is not reflective of material reality is treated as being materially real.

For those without twitter, Menno videoed this sign at Pride

https://x.com/mrmennotweets/status/2081048279240847863?s=46

‘90% of pigs in the UK are gassed to death, but terfs still exist’.

Then there is this one complete with throat slitting action.

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/2081027090921472480?s=20

Notice that the person doing the slitting the throat action is masked up and the people that the masked activist has recognised have no masks and and are not acting in any way intimidating.... I believe this was at Pride, which both the people the activist has done the slitting of the throat symbol at are there as part of the LGB umbrella.

But... sure... 'both sides'.

There really is no fucking symmetry.

Yes that’s what I meant, didn’t articulate it very well.

So I asked my ISP and got the reply 'On some sites the hierarchy of pages that led to a specific location, e.g. UK, cases, Court of Appeal, 2026, is referred to as a "breadcrumb trail", the idea being that you can find your way back out thereby. That was probably on the site that ChatGPT stole.'

And that explains why it is called that.

Thanks to all, and I am sorry I derailed.

Essentially it means Lexythingy's computer is probably full of things spying on everything that is on it? Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.

I thought breadcrumbs were like this, showing the route to a page on the website.

According to the Cambridge dictionary, they are "the history of exactly how you got to a particular website, web page, etc. on the internet, that is recorded and stored on your computer." ... Kinda spooky when you think about it 😅

Yes I think “breadcrumbs” are something to do with the structure of a website and its search facilities, no?

TRA's kids always seem to take so long to put to bed.

Pretty sure it's just metadata about the research, or the webpage Flex got it from, or something. Just internet stuff basically.

It was, and that is why I was asking the thread in general, because I suspected I wouldn't get an answer from the flexicon.

It's just so random! Breadcrumb! Disposition! Whisper! Glass!

I'm afraid I have no idea, however, you can ask when @Lexibletheflexible returns with all that research, because I think it was one of Flex's posts that had that information, if I remember correctly.

Any time now...

Can anyone, pretty please, explain to me why
"English
Cymraeg
Breadcrumb"
appears in the Lexicon Chat-thing quote?

Is this sort of random word usual in such searches?

Excellent bigly deployment.

😆

Happy number crunching.

Now that's the look I am familiar with! 😁

If Kitty could roll her eyes at that gif, she would.

I suppose it depends on what kind of circles you frequent. I imagine that for some people, "cis" is used regularly, so they wouldn't notice it as "leading language.". Maybe.

Ah, the Manipulative Kitty gif! ❤

(actually, I've always found that one to be a bit creepy- all the cats I've had would normally fix you with a haughty, threatening glare, rather than burst into tears, but then I've never had a cat who could use a smartphone. No buttons to walk on) 😆

ed grammar much?