Linehan tweeting misogyny and racism now

Well then, all these reasonable TRAs need to speak up a bit louder then.
Because the majority of what we hear IS offensive, aggressive, and threatening. And would absolutely not fly if it was being directed at any other group sharing a protected characteristic.

Have you looked at any of those terf is a slur tweets??
Have a go at replacing the word TERF in those tweets with black, gay, disabled, Jewish, elderly people, Trans(!) even.

There are THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of them. They are the very loud, prevailing voices.

It's not hard to speak up as a community to condemn the actions of people who despite sharing views with, are damaging your community and making it harder for your community to be accepted and viewed as reasonable.

Plenty of groups concerned about the unsavoury actions of a few in their community regularly speak out to basically say "they dont speak for us"
Organisations like the MCB repeatedly issue statements condemning all forms of mindless violence, stressing that extremists do not speak for Islam.
There were very loud, very strong Sikh voices expressing their horror at the HN murder.
The EVAWG coalition recently did that last year, after being horrified at some anti migrant groups hijacking their cause.
Good people tend to distance themselves from the lunatics among them.

So where are they? Where are all the voices saying "Not in my name?"
I sure as shit would not want to be lumped in with maniacs ranting about torturing a group of people I dont agree with.

I didn't say that.

I asked specifically what has he said or done that you think is on an equivalent level to this.

https://terfisaslur.com/

I still don't understand the equivalence you see between Linehans' behaviour and that of the extreme TRA component.

What has he said or done that's on a similar level?

There are zero actual details here and zero connection with any GC individuals.

Who is giving Lineham any ‘passes’?

FFS. We are adults and can make our own decisions on who to support, when and why. We also can choose who we discuss our decisions with.

By all means, make your own choices, feel free to defend your choices and to ask people why they make the choices they do. Correct any misinformation and give deeper information that may convince others.

Why do you believe that women should feel compelled to be emotionally manipulated through being told to give solidarity to male people though? Why should anyone have to denounce someone to suit you and your needs to see it?

What I don't understand is what you think Linehan has done or said that is in anyway equivalent to the sentiments on here.

https://terfisaslur.com/

@GiddyGiddyGiddy

In no way am I suggesting that vitriol is understandable or justified

We can read, and make judgments on, the content of your posts.

I suppose that's what this thread is about

Not your call. It can take whatever direction people choose.

That's my worry

I don't believe you are 'worried'. Except maybe about the TRAs' loosening grip on the narrative.

Social media has nudged people along like this so imperceptibly that we haven't noticed,

Speak for yourself.

yep.

There is assymetry on so many different aspects. Female people are constantly being held to a different standard.

You suggested a certain amount of vitriol was understandable from TRAs because they 'face discrimination' and are the butt of jokes. Meanwhile women have had centuries of this stuff and have managed not to threaten to rape people with barbed wire covered truncheons, or whatever the threat du jour is.

“I would hope that one group facing discrimination would have solidarity with another”

Why should any female person be shamed into expressing solidarity towards a group of male people where the extreme activists in the group have caused continued oppression to female people and where some of the group even unintentionally cause the oppression of female people?

That is something that you choose yourself. No female person should feel compelled or shamed by others to feel solidarity in situations where they are being oppressed by the people they are expressing solidarity with. No thank you.

I am not conflating TRAs with ‘all’ at all. I am very familiar thanks with the difference and I don’t believe I spoke of absolutes.

I am pointing out that people who use the argument ‘both sides are as bad’ seem to ignore the significant lack of symmetry over many aspects of that comparison

I also did not deny that people with transgender identities might not experience abuse and hate etc. You however, seem to be the one taking my post as me discussing this in absolutes.

Is there a reason you have shifted the scope of this discussion to outside of the UK? Again, what is the relevance of posting that link? Do we have to point out the number of female people killed? What is your aim with that link?

Phew. It's a good job women don't face discrimination because of their sex. It's a good job no-one jokes about women drivers, or whether women should be 'making the sandwiches', or 'blondes'. We've really dodged a bullet there.

“This kind of thing is observable across multiple TRA demonstrations.”

indeed. There really is no comparison when you look at how extreme trans activists behave at any protest to shut down any discussion.

The claims of ‘both sides’ are never symmetrical. Having been to numerous events now where masked male people are literally screaming at us, and the vile signage, I don’t believe anyone who attempts the ‘both sides’ arguments. For a fucking start, when have feminists protested and tried to shut down any transgender event?

I have never once seen a feminist call for a trans person to die, I don’t recall ever seeing anyone call for one to be attacked.

An insightful comment from Alex Massey this weekend, in an article that summarises recent events. The article is primarily in response to Claire Methven O’Brien‘s coming court case.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/bcf537da-8153-41be-8c3b-94cc284de538?shareToken=91a445d484b9a342ec0c9f3bdce5f9b2

“A terrible amount of time and energy has been wasted attempting to note that “both sides” are to blame for this horribly “toxic” debate. Focusing on this has always been the hallmark of pusillanimous commentary and political leadership. For in reality the two sides are very different. One promulgates a revolutionary reinterpretation of material reality; the other, more prosaically, suggests that public bodies and other interested parties should follow the law. Anyone drawing a false equivalence between these positions is peddling a counterfeit version of history.”

A great reminder of the lack of symmetry of the ‘both sides’ accusations.

That post is a compilation of real life examples.

This kind of thing is observable across multiple TRA demonstrations.

Nothing Linehan, KJK or JKR has ever done comes anywhere close to this.

These are the kinds of death threats JKR could 'paper her house' with

That's complete bullshit though Giddy.

Their 'belligerence' looks like this

https://terfisaslur.com/