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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Vulva Only Spaces

269 replies

Lurkingandlearning · 17/07/2026 19:41

Is this what we need to be asking for now?

That wouldn't exclude people who had transitioned. But it would exclude people who have a penis. Surely when people had transitioned and have a vulva instead of a penis they would feel exactly the same way, as women.

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BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 17:35

Boiledbeetle · 18/07/2026 17:32

I believe she knows everything I know. She should, it cost her 144 Tunnock's Tea cakes, the balance of which is still outstanding. So if you pay her debt to me I'll definitely make sure she shares the power with you.

Honest.

ok. Here's what I think: my phone's battery is about to die (honest, gov) so I shall recharge and return, after I work out where I'm going to acquire the remaining debt.

(or something like that. honest)

Would you accept an IOU?

Boiledbeetle · 18/07/2026 17:32

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 17:29

ooh interesting. So, I assume you know more than @GriseldaandMike does ..,

I believe she knows everything I know. She should, it cost her 144 Tunnock's Tea cakes, the balance of which is still outstanding. So if you pay her debt to me I'll definitely make sure she shares the power with you.

Honest.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 18/07/2026 17:29

Lurk less, and learn some more.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 17:29

Boiledbeetle · 18/07/2026 17:25

the upside down letters package has benefits not available to the bigly letters package

ooh interesting. So, I assume you know more than @GriseldaandMike does ..,

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 17:27

Alucard55 · 18/07/2026 16:54

I missed this one. Did anyone get a full house?

Sorry, someone started in with the Bigly Letters and I lost track! But someone posted a very graphic... um, graphic of a fake (I think) vulva upthread, which I skimmed over quickly. So, there's been a bit of excitement 😁

Boiledbeetle · 18/07/2026 17:25

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 17:24

I'm not sure upside down letters are worth as much as BIGLY letters and emojis. Doesn't seem like a fair deal to me. And if you split the powers, then @Seethlaw and I have to work together, which was not part of My Cunning Plan...

It's up to you. Whatever you give @Seethlaw I'll figure out a way to inveigle it in time <evil cackle>. Do what you will.

(I'll be over here, negotiating with @inkymoose )

the upside down letters package has benefits not available to the bigly letters package

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 17:25

I think I'm being bankrolled.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 17:24

GriseldaandMike · 18/07/2026 17:14

So does this mean I'm to initiate @Seethlaw in the ways of the bigly letters?

Perhaps I could split the powers and give Seeth the Bigly letters and @BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp the upside-down words?

I'm not sure upside down letters are worth as much as BIGLY letters and emojis. Doesn't seem like a fair deal to me. And if you split the powers, then @Seethlaw and I have to work together, which was not part of My Cunning Plan...

It's up to you. Whatever you give @Seethlaw I'll figure out a way to inveigle it in time <evil cackle>. Do what you will.

(I'll be over here, negotiating with @inkymoose )

Boiledbeetle · 18/07/2026 17:24

GriseldaandMike · 18/07/2026 17:14

So does this mean I'm to initiate @Seethlaw in the ways of the bigly letters?

Perhaps I could split the powers and give Seeth the Bigly letters and @BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp the upside-down words?

As long as I get a percentage of any Tunnock's paid as offerings I think that would work!

GriseldaandMike · 18/07/2026 17:14

So does this mean I'm to initiate @Seethlaw in the ways of the bigly letters?

Perhaps I could split the powers and give Seeth the Bigly letters and @BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp the upside-down words?

Seethlaw · 18/07/2026 17:10

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 16:34

(Dammit, have to think of something else)

I'm not prepared to sell my soul yet, so I shall consider my other options. In the meantime, if you do acquire Said Knowledge, I might be prepared to trade for it, but I'll have to see if there's anything I can steal find to trade. Have a think over the weekend...?

Truce?

Truce!

Also, I need names for female characters, so I might just steal your soul username.

BiologicalRobot · 18/07/2026 17:03

Editing for being too much. And means I'll never get any lemon drizzle cake again 😩

Alucard55 · 18/07/2026 16:54

I missed this one. Did anyone get a full house?

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 16:34

Seethlaw · 18/07/2026 16:18

Oh-ho... What sticky mess did I get myself into?

(Luckily, I have a cunning plan! "At dawn," you say? But is it your dawn (UK time) or my dawn (France time)? Muahaha!)

(Dammit, have to think of something else)

I'm not prepared to sell my soul yet, so I shall consider my other options. In the meantime, if you do acquire Said Knowledge, I might be prepared to trade for it, but I'll have to see if there's anything I can steal find to trade. Have a think over the weekend...?

Truce?

HoppityBun · 18/07/2026 16:19

Lurkingandlearning · 17/07/2026 19:55

And yet you were arsed. Just to criticise though, not to inform. If it is important enough to you to post, why not explain why I must not express myself in my own words. Perhaps give a list of things that you personally believe other people cannot think or say. Do you feel the same about every opinion anyone has that is different to yours on any subject?

A surgically created opening in a body is not a vulva, wherever it is placed.

Seethlaw · 18/07/2026 16:18

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 16:13

Well @BiologicalRobot you wanted lemon drizzle cake to lick off the walls! Stick around (no pun intended), there may indeed be Drizzle Cake at Dawn!

Oh-ho... What sticky mess did I get myself into?

(Luckily, I have a cunning plan! "At dawn," you say? But is it your dawn (UK time) or my dawn (France time)? Muahaha!)

Shortshriftandlethal · 18/07/2026 16:16

Lurkingandlearning · 17/07/2026 20:21

I agree with all of that. And I'm angry that it seems to me that women are now being marginalised and expected to accept things that we don't want in favour of people who say they want to be women. If they want to be women, support women.

The point of my post was to ask if using the wording vulva only spaces would at least allow us to continue to have, or claw back, the right to have some places where there is no possibility of exposure to male genitalia.

It is not really about being exposed to male genitalia; it is more about the privacy of one's sex and how that is compromised by the 'otherness' of a male person in a female only public space, and how that can make women and girls feel uncomfortable.... at the very least.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 16:13

Seethlaw · 18/07/2026 16:06

Well, you're taking your sweet time, so...

elbows Bridget out of the way

Me, me, look at me!!!

Well @BiologicalRobot you wanted lemon drizzle cake to lick off the walls! Stick around (no pun intended), there may indeed be Drizzle Cake at Dawn!

MissFancyDay · 18/07/2026 16:13

Lurkingandlearning · 17/07/2026 20:21

I agree with all of that. And I'm angry that it seems to me that women are now being marginalised and expected to accept things that we don't want in favour of people who say they want to be women. If they want to be women, support women.

The point of my post was to ask if using the wording vulva only spaces would at least allow us to continue to have, or claw back, the right to have some places where there is no possibility of exposure to male genitalia.

No, we need to hold the line...keep fighting for the word "woman" to stay meaning biological women, and keep fighting to keep women only spaces.

If we give an inch now we've lost.

Coconutter24 · 18/07/2026 16:12

BettyBooper · 17/07/2026 20:27

They?

Why is ‘they’ a question?

hahabahbag · 18/07/2026 16:11

From my perspective, if a situation needs to be single sex then that’s what it should be, but most of life doesn’t need to be single sex so for all of those situations it’s fine for us to all be together. Where single sex spaces are appropriate/required for dignity, arrangements should be made to accommodate those who are trans or other complicated situations (eg third spaces)

Shortshriftandlethal · 18/07/2026 16:10

'Women only' or 'Female only' does the job just fine. It is dehumanising to just use the name of sexual body parts to describe who a facility or category was designed for.

Seethlaw · 18/07/2026 16:06

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 16:05

Excuse me! Negotiations ongoing here!

Well, you're taking your sweet time, so...

elbows Bridget out of the way

Me, me, look at me!!!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/07/2026 16:06

I can’t do bigly writing or cursive or bigly emoticons. I am so inferior. And the cursive looks so pretty, too.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 16:05

Seethlaw · 18/07/2026 16:01

Can I tempt you with an offer of fictional souls I'm currently writing fic for? Some of them are even actual wizards (from Harry Potter). They could do with one more spell! Alternatively, you could name your own Original Character...

Excuse me! Negotiations ongoing here!