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murasaki · 17/07/2026 13:06

I didn't realise there was a 4th. We know of Sparkles, Poppy bear who says he's been accused of sexual assault but has had a 'brain outage' and from that video seems to be the most alarming, and Herbert. If the 4th is keeping a low profile, I can't blame him.

spannasaurus · 17/07/2026 13:04

Lins77 · 17/07/2026 13:02

Sorry to digress slightly, but am I right in thinking that the now nationally famous "polycule" consists of three trans-identified men?

Presumably they all consider themselves lesbians?

I think there may be four of them, all TIMs

Lins77 · 17/07/2026 13:02

Sorry to digress slightly, but am I right in thinking that the now nationally famous "polycule" consists of three trans-identified men?

Presumably they all consider themselves lesbians?

murasaki · 17/07/2026 12:46

Doris86 · 17/07/2026 12:42

It’s being treated as a malicious communication, which is a criminal offence.

The fact he then doubled down on it, saying he had done nothing wrong makes it worse.

I still think, while I suspect that is right, that they've then done a deeper dive into his online comms and the charge is to do with whatever they've found. Which should put the whole polycule in trouble....

Doris86 · 17/07/2026 12:42

spannasaurus · 16/07/2026 13:20

As much as I like the thought that this vile man has been charged I don't believe that his disgusting tweet is a criminal matter.

It’s being treated as a malicious communication, which is a criminal offence.

The fact he then doubled down on it, saying he had done nothing wrong makes it worse.

murasaki · 17/07/2026 12:40

I think he may be genuine on that front and have had it done. After all, the other two members of the polycule seemed, prior to this, to be more aggressive and still do, so I suspect he's the passive one of the three.

I really didn't want to think about that.

Additup · 17/07/2026 12:31

Tallisker · 17/07/2026 11:48

Do we know if he has actually had the surgery, though? Or is dilating on the floor of a ladies’ loo also LARPing? Can’t imagine a several-way relationship based on sex will be a winner if you chop your willy off.

That's a whole new level of weird: a man/TW LARPing as another man who has had gender reassignment surgery and posting a photo about it online 😳

Datun · 17/07/2026 12:09

Obanotters · 17/07/2026 11:25

You think it is ‘body dysmorphia’ that drives them to get fake tits?

Quite. The entire episode is porn addled exhibitionism meant to titillate his mates. In my opinion, obviously.

Fetishistic men have long dressed up their paraphilia as a medical condition. Posting creepy, blatantly obvious stuff will result in them totally running out of road, if they haven't already.

MeinKraft · 17/07/2026 11:58

MashaPav · 16/07/2026 19:59

Freedom of speech for me, but not for thee.
Transphobic individuals can incite violence on innocent people or preach hate and it’s not against the law but when someone else expresses their free speech it’s against the law.

Have ‘transphobes’ been inciting actual violence or the telling the truth kind of violence?

MeinKraft · 17/07/2026 11:54

AnNonnyMouse3 · 17/07/2026 09:59

From recent news reports there’s been the belief by police that the murder was ‘terrorism-related’. Which means the murder was carried out in pursuance of an ideology.

I’ll eat my hat if the 26yr old man they’ve arrested a couple of times on suspicion of murder and terrorism-related offences isn’t linked ideologically to this group of men in wigs who post videos and tweets about shooting people in the name of their ideology (ie terrorism).

And luckily there is also a crime of conspiring to incite terrorism - which carries a heavy custodial sentence - which means once these men in wigs’ hard drives have been forensically examined they’ll be residing at His Majesty’s pleasure, in a male prison (haha, should’ve thought of that before committing their crime in Scotland - home of sanity - being ‘spoken to’ by a load of Glaswegian crims on a daily basis.

Edited

I think so and I think that’s why details have been so few and far between. Hopefully they’re examining Herbert’s devices which will lead to identifications of more males with violent intentions and it blows up the whole ring of them.

Tallisker · 17/07/2026 11:48

Do we know if he has actually had the surgery, though? Or is dilating on the floor of a ladies’ loo also LARPing? Can’t imagine a several-way relationship based on sex will be a winner if you chop your willy off.

Additup · 17/07/2026 11:40

Obanotters · 17/07/2026 11:25

You think it is ‘body dysmorphia’ that drives them to get fake tits?

Presumably, or some fetish.
Let's face it looking like that its high unlikely they're going to get near the real thing (should they want to).

ItsCoolForCats · 17/07/2026 11:33

GCScot · 17/07/2026 11:25

But the BBC did use female pronouns for Heather Herbert in the article?

Paragraphs 2 & 3:

Heather Herbert had reportedly posted that Widdecombe's death on Thursday was "good news" and that she hoped it was an "extremely painful death".

Her posts were reported to Police Scotland who initially said there was no criminality in relation to what she had written.

Yes, the article currently on the BBC website uses female pronouns and there is no indication that HH is male. I did see a version of the article that avoided pronouns, so I assume they have changed it?

GCScot · 17/07/2026 11:25

PriOn1 · 16/07/2026 13:50

The Mail uses female pronouns as well. Thought they’d know better. The BBC avoided pronouns altogether, which is better, in my opinion.

But the BBC did use female pronouns for Heather Herbert in the article?

Paragraphs 2 & 3:

Heather Herbert had reportedly posted that Widdecombe's death on Thursday was "good news" and that she hoped it was an "extremely painful death".

Her posts were reported to Police Scotland who initially said there was no criminality in relation to what she had written.

Obanotters · 17/07/2026 11:25

Additup · 17/07/2026 11:20

The look on his face. Is is supposed to be martyrdom, a weird lie back and think or England look 😂 It's the oddest thing to announce to the world and quite possibly the least female thing ever.

I actually feel very sorry for someone who has such serious body dysmorphia they have unnecessary surgery on a physically healthy body. Extra points for that surgery messing up your genitals/sex life/urethra.

I genuinely can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would do it to themselves.

You think it is ‘body dysmorphia’ that drives them to get fake tits?

Additup · 17/07/2026 11:20

GreenwichPips · 17/07/2026 00:35

Is this the same man who was dilating in a disabled loo at Gatwick?

“'Dilation, day two, let's play. Where in an airport can I locate a clean, dry, private place I can lie down, take my knickers off and spread my legs?“

Bloke clearly has a fetish 🤢🤮

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12535827/amp/Transgender-ex-Labour-MSP-Heather-Herbert-disabled-toilet-Gatwick-Airport.html

The look on his face. Is is supposed to be martyrdom, a weird lie back and think or England look 😂 It's the oddest thing to announce to the world and quite possibly the least female thing ever.

I actually feel very sorry for someone who has such serious body dysmorphia they have unnecessary surgery on a physically healthy body. Extra points for that surgery messing up your genitals/sex life/urethra.

I genuinely can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would do it to themselves.

Obanotters · 17/07/2026 11:13

Lins77 · 17/07/2026 09:11

At least they're not calling Herbert a woman. Though it would obviously be better to identify him as a man.

I assume the "white British male" terminology was used in order to prevent unfounded rumours spreading online, potentially resulting in violent attacks on certain groups of people.

The problem is they only identify ethnicity up front when someone is white so this is now feeding into the idea of two tier policing - that they are making a point that it is someone white but protecting other ethnicities. Or they mislead with ‘Welsh choir boy’ or ‘local man’. So now identifying someone as white is creating tensions not calming them.

TeaAndStrumpets · 17/07/2026 11:01

I read in an interview that his mum had moved to Devon. I may be jumping to conclusions but if his brother is with her in Devon I wonder if he is still on the car registration details but left the car behind?

LuckyHazelFox · 17/07/2026 10:35

lcakethereforeIam · 17/07/2026 10:33

Thanks. I did wonder if it was different for terrorism offences.

I read yesterday that the suspect lived with his father, who died a few months ago. I don't know if mum was on the scene or if he was employed.

I think one of his brothers lives with their mum. Poor dog the police siezed as well. Hopefully it will find its way to a better owner.

lcakethereforeIam · 17/07/2026 10:33

Thanks. I did wonder if it was different for terrorism offences.

I read yesterday that the suspect lived with his father, who died a few months ago. I don't know if mum was on the scene or if he was employed.

CassOle · 17/07/2026 10:30

The Counter Terrorism Police made, and were granted, a special application to keep him for longer.

'We don't have much detail yet about why he was arrested on suspicion of this offence, but earlier the head of counter-terrorism policing said detectives had obtained a warrant of further detention. That means they can hold a suspect for up to seven days without charging them.

The maximum time police can hold someone under the Terrorism Act without charge is 14 days - and they would need to apply for another extension.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c05y579g563t

lcakethereforeIam · 17/07/2026 10:07

Isn't there a time limit before someone has to be charged or released? I think it's 3 days.

ThatCyanCat · 17/07/2026 10:03

AnNonnyMouse3 · 17/07/2026 09:59

From recent news reports there’s been the belief by police that the murder was ‘terrorism-related’. Which means the murder was carried out in pursuance of an ideology.

I’ll eat my hat if the 26yr old man they’ve arrested a couple of times on suspicion of murder and terrorism-related offences isn’t linked ideologically to this group of men in wigs who post videos and tweets about shooting people in the name of their ideology (ie terrorism).

And luckily there is also a crime of conspiring to incite terrorism - which carries a heavy custodial sentence - which means once these men in wigs’ hard drives have been forensically examined they’ll be residing at His Majesty’s pleasure, in a male prison (haha, should’ve thought of that before committing their crime in Scotland - home of sanity - being ‘spoken to’ by a load of Glaswegian crims on a daily basis.

Edited

We don't know. We'll have to wait and see.

Given he is being reported by everyone as a man, I think it's unlikely that he identifies as a woman. I know you are only saying he's likely to be connected in some way, not that he is trans identified himself. But we just don't know.

DrudgeJedd · 17/07/2026 10:02

Didn't the Telegraph, apropos of nothing, publish a little recap of the crimes of Bash Back earlier this week? Perhaps digital forensics have finally identified some of the people linked to it?
If I were a grifter director of a lawfare company who had shown support for Bash Back I'd also be deleting my Bluesky account 😁
No pasaran JoMo

'Heather' Herbert Charged Over Ann Widdecombe Comments
'Heather' Herbert Charged Over Ann Widdecombe Comments
AnNonnyMouse3 · 17/07/2026 09:59

From recent news reports there’s been the belief by police that the murder was ‘terrorism-related’. Which means the murder was carried out in pursuance of an ideology.

I’ll eat my hat if the 26yr old man they’ve arrested a couple of times on suspicion of murder and terrorism-related offences isn’t linked ideologically to this group of men in wigs who post videos and tweets about shooting people in the name of their ideology (ie terrorism).

And luckily there is also a crime of conspiring to incite terrorism - which carries a heavy custodial sentence - which means once these men in wigs’ hard drives have been forensically examined they’ll be residing at His Majesty’s pleasure, in a male prison (haha, should’ve thought of that before committing their crime in Scotland - home of sanity - being ‘spoken to’ by a load of Glaswegian crims on a daily basis.