'Heather' Herbert Charged Over Ann Widdecombe Comments

Herbert has confirmed on BlueHair that he’s had all of his electronic equipment seized by the police.

Is this the same man who was dilating in a disabled loo at Gatwick?

“'Dilation, day two, let's play. Where in an airport can I locate a clean, dry, private place I can lie down, take my knickers off and spread my legs?“

Bloke clearly has a fetish 🤢🤮

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12535827/amp/Transgender-ex-Labour-MSP-Heather-Herbert-disabled-toilet-Gatwick-Airport.html

They take action against Mumsnet initially

Where?

When & how will they take action against me?

Among regular posters, it will probably be considered courteous to avoid discussions that could inadvertently stray into contempt for some of us. I'm not in Scotland either but consider it an "us" situation because there is so much solidarity between us on similar issues.

Mumsnet will almost certainly make any decisions that are need to protect the site, and the rest of us get to choose our own behaviour.

They take action against Mumsnet initially

That makes no sense, any site that isn't in the UK can't be bound by the UK laws, that's the very problem Ofcom have got at the moment, it's trying to levy fines on USA company's and they're telling it to get lost.

The same must be said for those inside the UK as well surely, we don't have our own laws in Wales, but I'm not going to be bound by Scottish Law, they've got some stupid ones up there.

As I understand it, the option is there for the Scottish courts to proceed against people publishing from outside Scotland

How does that work? I'm sat in France posting on Mumsnet & I speculate about Herbert's crimes. Who do the Scottish courts take action against?

As I understand it, the option is there for the Scottish courts to proceed against people publishing from outside Scotland if they are creating a substantial risk of seriously prejudicing an active Scottish prosecution, so this is indeed something for media companies, including forum providers like MN to think about.

Apparently, Scottish courts are traditionally more cautious on the law around prejudicing cases than England - the different legal system, a much lower population with smaller jury pools especially outside the central belt are reasons suggested.

As I understand it, the option is there for the Scottish courts to proceed against people publishing from outside Scotland if they are creating a substantial risk of seriously prejudicing an active Scottish prosecution, so this is indeed something for media companies, including forum providers like MN to think about.

Apparently, Scottish courts are traditionally more cautious on the law around prejudicing cases than England - the different legal system, a much lower population with smaller jury pools especially outside the central belt are reasons suggested.

It's all a bit we know you're a wrongun, we've got evidence that you're a wrongun, but we haven't decided what wrongery we're going for yet. Surely a charge should follow that decision not precede it.

To be fair to old Herbert, that seems a bit unreasonable for him too. Better to know surely.

The police charge a person and have a few disposals open to them, one being a report to the PF, who then decide what course of action to take.

Otherwise I'm going to assume it's just arrest and the police are still fact finding.

AIUI the police have arrested him & the Procurator Fiscal decides about charging him.

Otherwise I'm going to assume it's just arrest and the police are still fact finding.

AIUI the police have arrested him & the Procurator Fiscal decides about charging him.

Don't the police/media normally state the actual charge, eg murder, kidnap, GBH, hate crime? Even with that councillor they mentioned hers as stirring up racial hatred. So what is his? Otherwise I'm going to assume it's just arrest and the police are still fact finding.

Mumsnet is read and used by people in Scotland so needs to stay in line with Scottish contempt law, which I suspect isn’t very different from English contempt law in any case.

Just been into town and his boyfriend (Euan denim skirt Twatface) has graced us with his presence. Couldn't see the twat himself though. Small group, maybe 20 or so, half of them draped in flags of various varieties in front of a pride banner outside the Krispy Kreme shop. Being filmed and blocking the bloody pavement.

Save us from ourselves 🙄

That makes no sense, any site that isn't in the UK can't be bound by the UK laws, that's the very problem Ofcom have got at the moment, it's trying to levy fines on USA company's and they're telling it to get lost.

The same must be said for those inside the UK as well surely, we don't have our own laws in Wales, but I'm not going to be bound by Scottish Law, they've got some stupid ones up there.