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halfpastten · 09/08/2026 20:43

Afghanistan should be treated like a pariah state. Boycott all sports with them and everything else. Create international scholarships for women. What is happening to women and girls in Afghanistan is the most horrific crime against humanity. It is a state based on gross misogyny and paedophilia, the worst type of apartheid and slavery.

IwantToRetire · 09/08/2026 20:36

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/08/2026 19:29

The withdrawal was signed and sealed by Trump, who was the one who apparently believed the Taliban (or else knew he'd be leaving a poisoned chalice for his successor). Biden had no choice about it, though he delayed as much as he could.

In February 2020, the first Trump administration and the Taliban signed the United States–Taliban deal in Doha, Qatar, which stipulated fighting restrictions for both the US and the Taliban, and in return for the Taliban's counter-terrorism commitments, provided for the withdrawal of all NATO forces from Afghanistan by 1 May 2021. At the start of the Biden administration the following year, there were 2,500 US soldiers remaining in Afghanistan; the other ten thousand plus had already been withdrawn by Trump. It is worth noting that Trump didn't think the government of the country worth including in his "deal" with the terrorist organisation opposing them.

Biden managed to hold off the full withdrawal until September, but Trump had already signed the agreement and started to get the American troops out of the country.

Thanks for taking the time to post some reality.

Whether Afghanistan or any number of other countries, the very least anyone of us can hope for is lessons learnt.

And without holding any brief for Trump, had assumed from his campaign speeches would stay well clear of meddling in other countries.

Especially if as has been said, despite the protests, the sum total of US taking it into it's head to bomb Iran has lead to increased support for the Government there. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewrx0ldlkko

Collage image showing teacher Amaineh Nademi, wearing a black chador, looking directly at the camera with a serious expression. To her left is a close up shot of a pink chair next to rubble in a classroom which has blue walls. To her right is an image...

'What was their crime?': BBC visits Iran school in Minab where strike killed 120 children

Nearly five months on, grief is still raw as a teacher and a mother recall the horror of the attack in Minab.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewrx0ldlkko

Yello24 · 09/08/2026 20:02

It’s heartbreaking. But the West can’t get involved. Any aid will just go to the Taliban. Women there have no power or control. Sadly the artificial propping up of the country’s economy for so long allowed the population to grow five fold and they now can’t support themselves so women and girls are bearing the brunt of that. Disposable, traded like animals. Zero rights.
Islam is a gift to men who want to control women.

Minasama · 09/08/2026 19:54

Afghan men are 18 times more likely than British men to commit crimes against women and girls. My dad was very surprised to hear this on Radio 4 one lunchtime, since they are normally very careful not to broadcast inflammatory stats like this.

This is why we don’t want these people in our country. Just awful
for their women and girls but I’m more focused on ensuring my own daughters understand some of the awful crimes we’ve seen here (Pakistani rape gangs) and are able to keep themselves safe, while understanding there are also plenty of good Pakistani men.

Imdunfer · 09/08/2026 19:48

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/08/2026 19:29

The withdrawal was signed and sealed by Trump, who was the one who apparently believed the Taliban (or else knew he'd be leaving a poisoned chalice for his successor). Biden had no choice about it, though he delayed as much as he could.

In February 2020, the first Trump administration and the Taliban signed the United States–Taliban deal in Doha, Qatar, which stipulated fighting restrictions for both the US and the Taliban, and in return for the Taliban's counter-terrorism commitments, provided for the withdrawal of all NATO forces from Afghanistan by 1 May 2021. At the start of the Biden administration the following year, there were 2,500 US soldiers remaining in Afghanistan; the other ten thousand plus had already been withdrawn by Trump. It is worth noting that Trump didn't think the government of the country worth including in his "deal" with the terrorist organisation opposing them.

Biden managed to hold off the full withdrawal until September, but Trump had already signed the agreement and started to get the American troops out of the country.

Biden agree with it, could have stopped it, and didn't.

www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/08/2026 19:29

Imdunfer · 15/07/2026 10:54

This is the fault of the soft headed Democrats under Biden who believed the Taliban when they said they would run the country properly. The withdrawal was agreed by Biden. I hoped against hope that Trump would U turn on that but he didn't.

The withdrawal was signed and sealed by Trump, who was the one who apparently believed the Taliban (or else knew he'd be leaving a poisoned chalice for his successor). Biden had no choice about it, though he delayed as much as he could.

In February 2020, the first Trump administration and the Taliban signed the United States–Taliban deal in Doha, Qatar, which stipulated fighting restrictions for both the US and the Taliban, and in return for the Taliban's counter-terrorism commitments, provided for the withdrawal of all NATO forces from Afghanistan by 1 May 2021. At the start of the Biden administration the following year, there were 2,500 US soldiers remaining in Afghanistan; the other ten thousand plus had already been withdrawn by Trump. It is worth noting that Trump didn't think the government of the country worth including in his "deal" with the terrorist organisation opposing them.

Biden managed to hold off the full withdrawal until September, but Trump had already signed the agreement and started to get the American troops out of the country.

VioletSpeedwell · 09/08/2026 19:12

Why leap in with a wrong conclusion that anyone is blaming the west

Because the West is always blamed rather than Islam and the ingrained misogyny of these countries.

Laughorbloodycry · 09/08/2026 19:01

It makes me question everything about the male species when I read this. How many men would actually prefer a system like this even over here.
The women are less than cattle.
Really upsetting read.

IwantToRetire · 09/08/2026 19:00

VioletSpeedwell · 09/08/2026 18:55

Why blame the West? It's the men of Afghanistan who are at fault.

I suggest you listen to the programme, as well as re-read what I said.

Why leap in with a wrong conclusion that anyone is blaming the west.

VioletSpeedwell · 09/08/2026 18:55

Why blame the West? It's the men of Afghanistan who are at fault.

IwantToRetire · 09/08/2026 18:50

There have been many threads starting on FWR about the terrible situation for women in Afghanistan.

I am adding to this one which I think is the latest thread, as I thought some might be interested in this.

Not specifically about women in Afghanistan but a BBC report on the situation is Afghanistan now, and the part played by the west in the recent past.

Some of the contributions reflect directly about the situation for women now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00301vz

BBC Radio 4 - The World This Weekend, Five years since Kabul fell

Reflections on the withdrawal from Afghanistan and the five years of Taliban rule since.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00301vz

nocoolnamesleft · 15/07/2026 20:28

Heart breaking. These girls are so young.

Imdunfer · 15/07/2026 10:54

This is the fault of the soft headed Democrats under Biden who believed the Taliban when they said they would run the country properly. The withdrawal was agreed by Biden. I hoped against hope that Trump would U turn on that but he didn't.