Well, to be fair, it has certainly raised shark awareness on Mumsnet.

SAD times.

😄

On a (Nitter?) thread I’ve just been reading posts repeatedly say it’s 76m.

86m distresses me. At least if it’s 96m each of the 12 sections can be 8m long. 86/12 is 7 1/6, which would be difficult to measure precisely. Will this quilt be a bit approximate? If the image at the top of this page is anything to go by I’m not hopeful.

Perhaps a rough approximation of mostly-female-practised crafts is appropriate.

@WrongKindOfFeminist oh dear, I meant spinny. Was Spiny Norman the hedgehog in Monty Python?

And the catchy 'Your death B4 my detrans'.

Yep, they don't like heavy lifting themselves, they like filters to do that.

Spiny skirts? Like Spiny Norman?

TransNormans are Normans!

deepest apologies - my previous post was written hours ago and only just realised I didn’t send it so it’s out of order for a toilet post.

As for sharks, Jaws was a nightmare for conservationists. I love the big species. My favourite shark is a basking shark, though the prettiest is the whale shark. Both plankton feeders. Gorgeous animals.

Just got back from Durham gala the average banner is about 2.5 meters width and height which is pretty big and bloody heavy to hold up.

If the quilt (which is going to be made in to a banner) is 86 meters made in to 12 panels that is still just over 7 meters.

i cannot see how anyone could carry it on poles.

i would imagine that even the most burliest of men (without any hormonal intake) would struggle.

I cannot wait to see all those weedy limp specimens dragging the banners around. The mind boggles.

The patch I can see says 'arm trans kids' because thats not at all an unhinged fucken suggestion.

I am presuming you are ambulant and are a woman, (but if not then just substitute the word woman for man):

Imagine you were at your most vulnerable in a toilet cubicle - perhaps going there feeling ill, then it turning into a medical emergency. Another woman entering the single sex washroom would be able to see or hear you were in trouble in your cubicle.

That safeguarding feature gets taken away when toilets are in a mixed sex environment. The toilet design has to be resistant to sound and floor-to-ceiling in height.

I think the right to a safe toilet design for ambulant people having an emergency, and for those with disabilities and conditions such as diabetes, allergies, epilepsy, heart conditions, stroke, should come before toilets becoming completely private. This means certain single sex designs are inclusive of disabilities as a very reasonable adjustment.

These conditions don’t ‘care’ what you identify as. I want safe toilets and this means a certain design that can only be used in a single sex environment. I want toilets to be clean and not smell and that is supported by certain single sex designs too.

If you feel unable to use the women’s toilet, the accessible is the next best design. It has an alarm pull cord and opens up directly on to a main thoroughfare, both safety features. This design relies on the occupant having the ability and desire to get help for themselves by pulling the cord. Now as an ambulant person you can help by making sure the cord has been left untied and reaches the floor. You can make sure the toilet is left in the best state for the next person who may not have the same capabilities to do this as you.

Options if you want men and women to be able to use all toilets:

Change all toilet provision to be the correct regulated design for a mixed sex environment. This isn’t economically and practically viable, or justifiable for health and safety. It discriminates against women, elderly, children, medically vulnerable including some disabilities and those with certain religious beliefs. This seems to be the preferred option of the Good Law Project - they called this the ‘sophisticated’ solution for the consultation for Keeping Children Safe in Education.

The other option is to change the building regulations and standards and legislation so men and women can be in designs made for a single sex environment. The Sexual Offences Act would need to be looked at because there’s certain sections involving toilets, because they are vulnerable places.

Which option do you want to go for?

How wide is it? Toilet paper width?

They wouldn’t know how to do washing, they’re not real women 😆

Maybe some of it detransitioned and was cast out.

Also, checkout the slogans on the jacket in the photo. Maybe that's a teaser of what to look forward to.

It was 96 metres to start with. Down to 86 metres now. Wonder if they put it through a hot wash?

Ooh, any other recommendations? DD17 loves a ridiculous shark film and she's in hospital at the moment so could do with some cheering up.

@AgedPudding great post, very moving.
I’ve loved this thread, I was out all day so couldn’t contribute but I’m very sad to have missed my chance to get a monster t-shirt. I Iwonder if they did them in 2XL or only petite v-necks to complement spiny skirts?

I just want to thank Amnesty and the Good Laugh Project for the last 2 days. After the tribunal last week we really fucking needed it. Top work.

Maybe the tower identified as being invisible?

I love that The Goodies’ giant kitten destroyed a building (the Post Office Tower) so secret that it couldn’t be shown on Ordnance Survey maps.

I guess it just went stealth, despite being the tallest building in London for years and pretty fucking obvious to anyone with eyes.

You look beautiful

And what will it look like?

Just thinking about the beautiful work done by women on their banners, etc.

So my question is who are the people making this huge quilt

Are they none cis people all over the country making quilted squares to be sown together by another group of none cis people in a warehouse somewhere tasked to, sew the squares together?

Perhaps over tea and biscuits, chatting about how awful life is.