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13,000 toilets and 5,000 changing rooms to change to meet single sex guidance

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IwantToRetire · 09/07/2026 18:55

Nearly 13,000 toilets and more than 5,000 changing-rooms could have to be revamped at gyms, hospitals and leisure centres across Britain at a cost of millions when new guidance on single-sex spaces shortly comes into force. At least 18,000 signs might also need to be changed, according to figures obtained by the Press Association.

Public-sector bodies, such as local councils, are estimated to face unadjusted costs for cleaning the new-look facilities totalling £20.6 million, together with £14.2 million per year for building work – though these sums could rise even higher. Thursday marks the end of the 40-day scrutiny period since the updated guidance was laid in Parliament, during which time it could have been rejected.

Some campaigners – including NION (Not In Our Name) Women – who said they represent “the many organisations who believe in practical, trans-inclusive services” have raised concerns about the code. In an open letter, they said: “We reject the false choice between protecting women and treating trans people with dignity, and believe women’s rights are best advanced when we stand in solidarity with our trans siblings.”

For Women Scotland (FWS), who claimed victory in the Supreme Court ruling last year, hailed the publication of the guidance in May as a “significant milestone in ensuring women’s rights are upheld and protected”.

Extracts from a briefing by the PA, but sounds like a bit more like another reason women shouldn't have single sex services - its too expensive.

See full article at https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/13000-toilets-5000-changing-rooms-34261012

13,000 toilets and 5,000 changing rooms to change 'in weeks' under new rule

18,422 signs will also have to be updated

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/13000-toilets-5000-changing-rooms-34261012

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BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 09/07/2026 21:09

Shedmistress · 09/07/2026 18:58

Nobody counted the amount of money wasted to make these places mixed swx in the first place.

Another colossal waste of taxpayers cash for no reason whatsoever, which went against the actual law.

Stonewall should be sued to the heavens for their advice.

Stonewall should be sued to the heavens for their advice.

I don't disagree, and councils should sue them until they are broke and out of business, but Stonewall definitely does not have the kind of money it will take. It'll be taxpayers again, and I hope this story is taken up, run with, and expanded. I'm hoping we can all get the word that if toilets and changing rooms hadn't been changed in the first place, none of this expense would have been necessary. What a waste!

EyesOpening · 09/07/2026 21:07

"and believe women’s rights are best advanced when we stand in solidarity with our trans siblings"

Can someone please demonstrate this to me, feel free to use performative dance, crayons, Venn diagrams, Powerpoint presentation, Sticklebricks, sticky-backed plastic or the tubes from toilet rolls as all I've seen are women being renamed as body part owners/havers although I'm thinking maybe "women's rights" might be not as we know it, Jim.
(Beam me up, Scotty, FGS!)

Holymolymoon · 09/07/2026 21:03

I think this just shows how much money was quietly wasted kowtowing to this movement.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 09/07/2026 20:14

Any gap in equality protections for trans+ people undermines their ability to live full and dignified lives here in the UK.

Interesting. So Stonewall do understand the difference between LGB people and Trans+ people after all! How very convenient when it suits their purposes, because of course having single-sex spaces for women or for men affects LGB people not one whit.

So it's LGBTQIA+++ when it's useful to them, but Trans+ when the LGB are inconvenient. I'm starting to understand... More of the watching of Stonewall to be done, I see.

IwantToRetire · 09/07/2026 19:50

This doesn't really fit here other than an example of the all out efforts to portray the Supreme Court ruling and the EHRC guidelines as some sort of disaster. After all women's rights don't matter. Will copy in full to save others going to Stonewall site:

The EHRC Code has passed 40 days in Parliament without successful challenge. But this is not the end.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission's Code of Practice on Services, Public Functions, and Associations was laid before Parliament 40 days ago. In that time Stonewall, along with MPs, peers, organisations and individuals, have raised serious concerns with the guidance it offers.

Despite these many unresolved issues, the Government has taken no action over the past 40 days and the Secretary of State can now decide when to bring the revised Code into force.

How trans+ people access the vital services they need is now uncertain. For Stonewall, this situation is untenable. Any gap in equality protections for trans+ people undermines their ability to live full and dignified lives here in the UK. This is something Stonewall will not accept.

We are currently working alongside other LGBTQ+, trans+-led and human rights organisations to set a clear vision and action plan for equality in the UK. We are always stronger when we come together and this moment is more important than ever.

Stonewall‘s purpose is to create a world where all Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans and Queer+ people are free to live, work and thrive.

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/news/the-ehrc-code-has-passed-40-days-in-parliament-without-successful-challenge-but-this-is-not-the-end

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MarieDeGournay · 09/07/2026 19:01

If only they had stuck to the established configuration of women's/men's/accessible toilets and not wasted all that money on unsafe, unpopular ideology/trend-driven alternatives, they'd be quids in now.
Zero sympathy for them, and if it costs the public purse that much to make good their failed social experiments, whoever took the decisions should be held responsible.
Yes I know that's not going to happen, but let's at least point the finger of blame in the right direction!

Shedmistress · 09/07/2026 18:58

Nobody counted the amount of money wasted to make these places mixed swx in the first place.

Another colossal waste of taxpayers cash for no reason whatsoever, which went against the actual law.

Stonewall should be sued to the heavens for their advice.

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