What is a “good experience” in a women’s toilet?

Not ‘feminine’, no. ‘Female’, yes. I did not suggest it was weird for women to be able to do such things in their own space. That’s something I support.

Personally? I do think spaces like this should regarded as sacred, or if that’s a term that doesn’t appeal to you, then perhaps ‘sacrosanct’ works better.

Personally? I do think spaces like this should regarded as sacred, or if that’s a term that doesn’t appeal to you, then perhaps ‘sacrosanct’ works better.

The word "private" is more practical. You may say more prosaic, but that's all to the good, as enough men seem to want to get into women's single-sex areas as it is without additional marketing. These should be private, comfortable hygienic places we meet our bodily needs as menstruating mammals, so they don't need to be classed in the same bracket as Stonehedge.

No.

Have you changed usernames on this thread? I have no idea what you think.

That would be down to your interpretation of the word ‘femininity’ versus the reality of female toilet needs that are unique to male toilet needs.

Odd, given I am also a woman.

That does sound to me rather like the defence of a sacred place of femininity.

Curious wording. I would have called all those mundanities of existence as a female human. Using "sacred" in the same paragraph as writing about clearing up vomit is most disconcerting, and rather suggests you've had little contact with it or other bodily fluids. Did you use generative AI to help you compose your post?

Most women on this thread are describing their toilet experiences as quite spare: they want to get in and out as quickly as possible and speak to no-one in the process - the opposite of the trans person in the OP, basically. You’re suggesting that women have unique needs (true) but feel the phrase “sacred palaces of femininity” is misogynistic. Would that be correct?

I remember you writing all manner of activities women do in toilets (adjusting clothing, cleaning up vomit, washing off blood, pumping breastmilk, the list is endless really) in defence of single-sex spaces. That does sound to me rather like the defence of a sacred place of femininity.

The derision towards any female needing to exclude males was unmissable.

Yes, really quite revealing, isn’t it?

wtaf is 'feminine' about washing blood off your hands, or pumping breast milk? Or having a miscarriage? 🙄

Female, yes. Biologically female. Why on earth is it weird for women to be able to do these things without a man spectating? Any man. Never mind one there for his own gratification.

'Sacred'? Women's privacy and dignity is to be talked about with derision is it?

Most women on this thread are describing their toilet experiences as quite spare: they want to get in and out as quickly as possible and speak to no-one in the process - the opposite of the trans person in the OP, basically. You’re suggesting that women have unique needs (true) but feel the phrase “sacred palaces of femininity” is misogynistic. Would that be correct?

I remember you writing all manner of activities women do in toilets (adjusting clothing, cleaning up vomit, washing off blood, pumping breastmilk, the list is endless really) in defence of single-sex spaces. That does sound to me rather like the defence of a sacred place of femininity.

Yes, really quite revealing, isn’t it?

The loathing that is apparent when someone describing what their needs are in regards to single sex toilets is somehow being twisted into making toilets “sacred palaces of femininity” does show a lean towards misogyny to defend male people accessing female single sex provisions.

Since when has recognising that female people have unique needs in toilet usage been elevating toilets to “sacred palaces of femininity”?

Do you know what "sacred" means? We are talking about loos, not shrines to Diana nor Lady chapels. The cleanups and breast pumping are done in loos because there is nowhere else to do them that is a) away from male onlookers and b) has running water. These are purely practical matters, many of which are caused by our female biology, not any kind of "feminine" ethereal essence.

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Most women on this thread are describing their toilet experiences as quite spare: they want to get in and out as quickly as possible and speak to no-one in the process - the opposite of the trans person in the OP, basically. You’re suggesting that women have unique needs (true) but feel the phrase “sacred palaces of femininity” is misogynistic. Would that be correct?

I remember you writing all manner of activities women do in toilets (adjusting clothing, cleaning up vomit, washing off blood, pumping breastmilk, the list is endless really) in defence of single-sex spaces. That does sound to me rather like the defence of a sacred place of femininity.