Are attitudes finally shifting in discussions about women, sex and gender?

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porridgecake · 01/07/2026 18:53

Over the last couple of days many, many people (men) in positions of authority seem to have had a lightbulb moment around the systemic and organised abuse of women and girls. They are suddenly talking about women and girls being the targets and victims and the perpetrators being men. Using the words correctly.
Andrew Marr has had a couple of excellent guests on his LBC show this evening.
Is anyone else listening to it all and thinking "what took you so long?" Followed almost immediately by "why do men who pretend to be women get a free pass?"
The parallels between tiptoeing round the Pakistani rape gangs and other "groups " of men are very obvious.
Then we have the scandal of the appalling treatment of pregnant women in the NHS. Now suddenly referred to as "women", not "pregnant people".
Violence against women and girls. Actually saying the words.
Does anyone think the penny might continue to drop?

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porridgecake · 02/07/2026 10:39

RoyalCorgi · 02/07/2026 10:31

Then we have the scandal of the appalling treatment of pregnant women in the NHS. Now suddenly referred to as "women", not "pregnant people".

The Amos Review, published this week, talks about "women and birthing people" throughout, unfortunately.

That is disappointing. I listened to Donna Ockington and I was pleased to hear women and pregnant women named consistently. The other thing she said was that women are not listened to - which is a recurring theme that resonated with me.
It is my understanding that Donna Ockington is not in total agreement with Baroness Amos' report.

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RoyalCorgi · 02/07/2026 10:31

Then we have the scandal of the appalling treatment of pregnant women in the NHS. Now suddenly referred to as "women", not "pregnant people".

The Amos Review, published this week, talks about "women and birthing people" throughout, unfortunately.

Namingbaba · 02/07/2026 09:10

I think it's changing for the better. I think more people are exposed to what TRA's are and what they want. And the more this happens the more they realise how toxic the movement is. There are still people out there who think the average trans person is a gay effeminate man who doesn't fit in and they feel sorry for him. The more they find out about young girls falling into this and creepy pervy men the more they are against this.

I recently went on to Magdalen Berns' youtube channel and watched some of her videos from around 9 years ago. Some of the clips she had in them from mainstream media I can't see them happening now.

I think unfortunately though there are still issues in Canada and Australia. Also with the USA is so partisan. When the democrats get back in as part of being the opposing side I bet they reverse some sensible decisions (I detest Trump but he's right on this issue).

Imdunfer · 02/07/2026 08:08

There are definite signs the tide has turned.

The Supreme Court ruling was a pivotal moment and I thank the people who put up the money and the ones that put their heart and soul into fighting that case in court from the bottom of my heart.

The other really influential thing was the horrific death of Sarah Everard, closely followed by the conviction of another police serial sex offender David Carrick. Showing that women weren't even safe against the men who were being paid to protect them.

It's about time.

Hedgehogforshort · 01/07/2026 19:02

Of course it feels like a slow process but its not really the SC FWS ruling and a few more besides are pushing the iceberg ever faster.

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