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Views on Siddhartha Mukherjee’s writing on sex, gender and biology

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champignonhill · 29/06/2026 22:58

I'm surprised not to have seen any discussion on here about Siddartha Mukherjee's views on sex/gender. I'm a big fan of his writing and read The Gene recently (which was written in 2016 so a bit before the current debates heated up).

This 2019 article, Why Sex is Binary but Gender is Mostly a Spectrum, which is an excerpt from the book, argues that biological sex is largely determined by genetic mechanisms that produce two main reproductive categories, while gender and gender identity arise from a more complex interaction of biology, brain development, and social experience. He traces the history of sex determination genetics, and explains how genes such as SRY influence physical sex, but suggests that the brain’s response to these signals can vary, helping explain the diversity of gender identities.

Below is a quote that sums it up, although the article (and the whole book, although this is just a few pages in a much broader exploration of genetics) is worth reading.

I was just wondering if anyone more intelligent than me had read this and had any views! I get lost in the science but found it an interesting view, especially since it comes from a biologist.

"The existence of a transgender identity provides powerful evidence for this geno-developmental cascade. In an anatomical and physiological sense, sex identity is quite binary: just one gene governs sex identity, resulting in the striking anatomical and physiological dimorphism that we observe between males and females. But gender and gender identity are far from binary. Imagine a gene—call it TGY—that determines how the brain responds to SRY (or some other male hormone or signal). One child might inherit a TGY gene variant that is highly resistant to the action of SRY on the brain, resulting in a body that is anatomically male, but a brain that does not read or interpret that male signal. Such a brain might recognize itself as psychologically female; it might consider itself neither male or female, or imagine itself belonging to a third gender altogether. These men (or women) have something akin to a Swyer syndrome of identity: their chromosomal and anatomical gender is male (or female), but their chromosomal/anatomical state does not generate a synonymous signal in their brains. In rats, notably, such a syndrome can be caused by changing a single gene in the brains of female embryos or exposing embryos to a drug that blocks the signaling of “femaleness” to the brain. Female mice engineered with this altered gene or treated with this drug have all the anatomical and physiological features of femaleness, but perform the activities associated with male mice, including mounting females: these animals might be anatomically female, but they are behaviorally male."

Why Sex Is Mostly Binary but Gender Is a Spectrum - Nautilus

A short genetic history of one of the most profound dimensions of human identity.

https://nautil.us/why-sex-is-mostly-binary-but-gender-is-a-spectrum-237620

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MissingLynks · 30/06/2026 01:51

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/06/2026 01:41

London taxi drivers also show distinctive brain scans.

I'm sure the researchers studying trans brains are aware of this. I'm equally sure they're far more knowledgeable than you are when it comes to how to interpret evidence from brain scans.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/06/2026 01:41

MissingLynks · 30/06/2026 01:39

Notably Mukherjee does not say anything about "female brains" or "male brains" as those in bad faith are interpreting it, but rather talking about how the brain receives and interprets signals from the body. MRI scans do show physiological differences between trans people's brains and cis people's brains which, regardless of the mechanism, demonstrates at the very least that there is a real phenomenon that people are experiencing.

London taxi drivers also show distinctive brain scans.

MissingLynks · 30/06/2026 01:39

Notably Mukherjee does not say anything about "female brains" or "male brains" as those in bad faith are interpreting it, but rather talking about how the brain receives and interprets signals from the body. MRI scans do show physiological differences between trans people's brains and cis people's brains which, regardless of the mechanism, demonstrates at the very least that there is a real phenomenon that people are experiencing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/06/2026 01:38

MissingLynks · 30/06/2026 01:30

This.

He's a reputable writer with interesting ideas. I also enjoyed his work on cancer (as a fellow traveller).

But you're addressing an audience largely ideologically opposed to any view that recognises transgender identities as anything other than perversion or delusion. It would be more productive to strike up a discussion on the subject with a brick wall.

As always, do feel free to explain why women should accept that any men who say they are women are women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/06/2026 01:36

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/06/2026 01:07

This is like seeing a black swan or an albino crow, and instead of saying "wow! I thought all swans are white but turns out sometimes swans are black!" or "I thought all crows were black but turns out sometimes crows are white", you conclude "wow! Some swans are crow-shape and some crows are swan-shape!"

That’s spot on - love a creative analogy.

MissingLynks · 30/06/2026 01:30

suggestionsplease1 · 29/06/2026 23:32

You're not talking to people who are prepared to consider anything other than their predecided opinions, OP.

This.

He's a reputable writer with interesting ideas. I also enjoyed his work on cancer (as a fellow traveller).

But you're addressing an audience largely ideologically opposed to any view that recognises transgender identities as anything other than perversion or delusion. It would be more productive to strike up a discussion on the subject with a brick wall.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/06/2026 01:07

This is like seeing a black swan or an albino crow, and instead of saying "wow! I thought all swans are white but turns out sometimes swans are black!" or "I thought all crows were black but turns out sometimes crows are white", you conclude "wow! Some swans are crow-shape and some crows are swan-shape!"

MarieDeGournay · 29/06/2026 23:52

Sex is binary, gender ID is... something else. Not exactly ground-breaking stuff, even back in 2019.

A brain is part of the body, it's not separate from it, so a female body has a female brain, a male body has a male brain.
A brain in a female body can't 'recognise' itself as male, or vice versa.
It can only recognise itself for what it is.
The human 'owner' of the brain may have all kinds of thoughts and feelings and opinions - even pre-decided ones about sex and genderWink - but that doesn't mean that their brain is somehow of the opposite sex to everything else in the body.

A woman's brain is not 'male' because it does non-traditionally-womanly things - at least half of the posters on here would be male, if that was the case😄

What's your opinion, suggestionsplease1, and had you decided on it before or after you read Siddartha Mukherjee's article?

suggestionsplease1 · 29/06/2026 23:32

You're not talking to people who are prepared to consider anything other than their predecided opinions, OP.

titchy · 29/06/2026 23:32

Well there’s absolutely no evidence that there is such a gene, or that the genes and brains of trans people is any different to that of others who are the same sex.

Pity, cos if there was a physical cause it would be possible to test for, and then we could recommend hormone or surgical treatment only for those who tested positive.

Weirdly TRAs don’t like this possibility.

rotoscope · 29/06/2026 23:32

The experiment he describes near the end of that quote indicates that, in mice, homosexual behaviour can be induced via genetic engineering. Seems like a huge stretch to try to apply this to transgenderism in humans.

Another thing is, how could the hypothetical human male also mentioned in that quote know that he is "psychologically female"? He has no personal experience of being female. At best he is imagining what he thinks this might mean and assuming this applies to himself. The concept itself is probably based on sexism.

HammyDown · 29/06/2026 23:31

Sounds like he's trying to ret-con trans identity into biology.

champignonhill · 29/06/2026 23:29

Theunchosenone · 29/06/2026 23:04

Are we back to the female brain again? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Sorry, I'm not sure what that means?

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champignonhill · 29/06/2026 23:28

Hedgehogforshort · 29/06/2026 23:18

It has not been discussed because it is utter twaddle. HTH

Do you mean it's a widely disregarded view? I know him mostly for his writing on cancer which I found life changing at the time, and I'm not a scientist myself, so I'm not sure how respected his work/views are.

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Hedgehogforshort · 29/06/2026 23:18

It has not been discussed because it is utter twaddle. HTH

Theunchosenone · 29/06/2026 23:04

Are we back to the female brain again? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

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