Trans man Freddy McConnell's challenge to be named as father on birth certificate deemed inadmissible by the ECHR

It's interesting to sit here and watch the wheels coming off the unreality bus.

Four or five years ago, Freddy would probably have been in with a chance.

Ha! They can't even agree amongst themselves on what is what, it's all such nonsense.

The priority of a birth certificate should be accuracy, not the parents' feelings. If a woman gives birth, she's not the child's father (I can't believe I needed to type that sentence). If a baby is conceived with donor gametes or via surrogacy, two mothers should be listed: the genetic mother and the birth mother.

@Shortshriftandlethal she has 2 kids now (single parent as they were artificial insemination pregnancies) and she says on Insta that she is telling them she's their dad but also how they were created and born.

Edited to correct -artificial insemination, not necessarily IVF. I expect all the details are out there!

Totally bonkers and very sad - for the child who might be totally confused if they're old enough.

It really is all about them. Not any child involved in this.

Just read a reddit comment about how ridiculous it is that Freddy can change "his" own birth certificate but not "his" children's to match. Because it's not as though children are people in their own right.

Your wish is my command, Apollo!

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1ug2zwb/echr_reject_application_challenging_trans_men/

Ridiculous you can't opt out of being a mother just because you like Football and want to be paid 12% more. Trans-men are women.

Have you got a link. I love their meltdowns.

I have sometimes wondered whether Freddie Mconnel is actually bring up their child themselvs, or whether the grandmother is doing it?

The thought that the child might be told that McConell is their father is just awful. The poor child has a right to know they have a mother; even if a child has not met their mother. We were all carried in the womb of a woman and it was she that gave birth to us. This is a foundational story in the human psyche, with very deep resonance.

Failing to register your child's birth because of your ideology is dodgy as fuck, whether it's because of your strange ideas about 'sovereignty' and the relevance of obscure maritime law, or because of your strange ideas about sex, gender and motherhood.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/if_a_child_has_not_been_register

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/23/man-refused-to-register-sons-birth-high-court

Children who are not registered are at risk because legally they don't exist so they don't show up on anyone's radar.

Freddy's two will be fine because she loves the limelight so everyone knows of these two children's existence but what kind of example has she set? Are there other mothers who have failed to register their children because they believe themselves to be fathers? Maybe really vulnerable messed up young women who might not even have publicly come out as 'trans'?

The number of unregistered births in the UK is a known unknown.

Good. Hopefully those poor kids will get birth certificates now.

I watched the documentary some years ago,and Freddie kept insisting "he", was a man, while obviously having all the female representative organs , the risks to a baby, stopping the male hormones in order to become pregnant,with anger. "Freddie" has been Badgering the High Court for years, demanding to be father. Imagine Father Freddie, mother unknown or unnamed!

And I really would have expected the ECHR to side with woke ideology. I’m pleasantly surprised on that one.

God, didn't know McConnell was still banging on about this. Good result.

Anyone know more about this sentence:
The Court confirmed that while “the right to respect for private life entails the freedom to define one’s gender identity and the right to legal recognition of one’s gender identity”...

Where is the latter right enshrined?

It’s a funny old time at the moment in the UK, on one hand we’ve got common sense prevailing in cases like this, and they’re moving the blokes out of Scottish women’s prisons, but on the other hand we’ve got the batshittery of the draft conversion therapy bill.

I'll bet they are. They are pinning all there hopes on the ECHR.

Reddit is FURIOUS about this!

I was very surprised to see this thread title/post, and had to follow the link before I was sure it wasn't a typo with ECHR instead of EHCR!

Aidan O'Neill again. He is doing sterling work. Have people seen this note he published yesterday about the potential for class actions by female prisoners against the Scottish Ministers? https://t.co/ViTRAzIs3r