Draft Conversion Practices Bill - published

Blake is full on this bill.

Going to be interesting to see the fall out as it means potentially arresting religious, biology knowing and biology denying parents,

Not sure if this has been posted:

No "Carve Out" For Parents In LGBT Conversion Practices Ban, Says Minister
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/no-carve-out-parents-lgbt-conversion-practices-ban-minister-confirms

It is easy to see how private prosecutions could be used vexatiously to target and threaten parents, individuals, clinicians and employers who do not abide by the tenets of gender ideology.

Yep. If this went through, you would have to be insane to take any client with a TQ identity. There would be no safe way to do it.

The bill will also be undoubtedly used to try and prevent people expressing and acting on their protected belief that sex matters in society and law, and that men who identify as women do not have the right to demand to be treated as women in a way that undermines women’s privacy, dignity and safety by eroding their hard-won access to single-sex facilities, services and sports. That a significant number of ministers and MPs could be gullible enough to fall for this ruse tells us a lot about the current quality of law-making and scrutiny.

That. ^^

The bill is awful more analysis is coming through.

Sonia Sodha
The conversion practices bill: vibes-based legislating
Labour MPs are rallying in support of a dangerous bill that risks criminalising parents

https://soniasodha.substack.com/p/the-conversion-practices-bill-vibes

In his new piece for The Spectator, John Armstrong highlights a startling fact: the UK government’s impact assessment for its proposed Conversion Practices Bill relies on survey data claiming 1 in 10 LGBTQ+ people have experienced an exorcism.

John Armstrong
Is the conversion therapy bill really worth £783 million?

The Cabinet Office has published its impact assessment of the government bill to ban conversion practices – acts which attempt to change someone’s sexuality or ‘gender identity’.
https://archive.is/jw98V

Not sure if this has been posted here yet as it came out a couple of days ago. Discussion with Helen Joyce with Dennis Kavanagh is extremely thought provoking, and concerning. One of the conclusions is that this bill, by placing this issue within the criminal law, is trying to shut down debate and negate the effects of the Forstater judgement and FWS.

Thought it might be useful to post here.

(From the Draft Code of Practice on Services thread re Nadia Whittcombe's recent comment on the Guidelines):

No mention of the fact that trans terror group Bash Back have recently called her "pathetic" for supporting the conversion therapy bill.

https://nitter.net/lwhb__/status/2072007073605259354

with thanks to @fromorbit

I dunno, moto. Certainly part of that but I suspect personal reason - transed kids mostly, I should think; spot of AGP for some maybe.

I don't think they are that invested, it just works for their careers. Not that it matters much either way.

Don't they realise that you you can't keep handing out titbits to the GI monster, it just grows bigger and stronger?

You're assuming they don't know that, what if they do because they are the GI monster.

Thank you. There are so many points they make which the general public and people like Phillipson have no idea about.

The poor oppressed minority are certainly not these men.

A previous post on ebswa on the difficulty of protecting children of transitioners if the proposals are passed (based on previous plans):
https://www.ebswa.org/post/conversion-therapy-proposals-the-children-of-transitioners-speak

and another link to an assessment of how CPS will target abused women eg transwidows https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/the-crown-prosecution-services-approach-to-transgenderism/

They haven't got a clue, have they? I wonder if Phillipson and the rest of them have ever sat down and thought about the sort of world they are bringing about (or trying to). Don't they realise that you you can't keep handing out titbits to the GI monster, it just grows bigger and stronger?

There is no limit to how much i despise Labour, pushing this in the teeth of the Supreme Court ruling.

The timing is key. Why did Phillipson wait to drop the EHCR guidance for months?

Some speculated this was to prevent it happening at all. Nope it was part of a wider project.

Phillipson and Blake planned this. The EHCR guidance is going through, BUT in an attempt to make Labour look like they care about "trans stuff" they are also pushing the awful conversion therapy bill and the puberty blockers trial at EXACTLY the same time. It is no coincidence it is all happening at once. This was planned.

Labour are trying to create a mythical third way between caring about women, saying biology is real and supporting trans crazy ideas. In doing so they are angering everyone and maybe attempting a project which can't work.

Phillipson and Blake and others can't get their head round the idea that men in dresses are not some kind of super oppressed minority on some level. They also look at some confused kids and think medical experiments should happen to them. They don't want to be the "nasty" people that TAs and the Greens and Lib Dems criticise, because that would make them Tories, but also they realise the whole saying biology is not a thing is kind of sexist.

So we get this crazy combination. Saying women get their own spaces but also trans stuff is very very real and you potentially should be arrested for saying it is daft and cruel.

Only the thing is the Bill is very very stupid. In open debate it will get wrecked. The longer it is out the more weaknesses we find and the more amendments will happen.

However stopping it altogether will be tough, because this is a "nice thing" that some Labour people really want to do.

Stock in unherd this morning:

But not much has been said about one unexpected implication of the bill: that conversion practices involving straight people are just as harmful as those involving gay or trans ones. The intention to cause a heterosexual or “cis” person to become homosexual or trans is to be treated in just as draconian a manner as the inverse case. In theory at least, progressive parents who preach the gospel of gender affirmation a little too enthusiastically risk criminal investigation later, when their children have second thoughts — a possibility which, you have to admit, is darkly funny. The idea that there might also be criminal liability for the hundreds of lanyard-wearing youth workers out there, still working very hard to cement the idea of medical and social transition into deeply unworldly heads, is even more delicious.

https://unherd.com/2026/07/the-conversion-paradox/

This is largely why every time it's been brought out, it's ended up being kicked out into the long grass. The TAs want it, and there's probably been funding to political parties based on promises about it - which is why it keeps on coming back like a bad smell - but it's unethical and a written recipe for disaster on multiple fronts, even watered down. So the activists will hate it because it's watered down from the extremist crazy they want, and everyone sane will hate it because obvious major major issues, and there is no answer.

With 7 billion to find in cuts, policy and practice that has pointless and insane cases constantly going through court like the current DEFRA one, should be the first in the bin. This ridiculous bill would set off an avalanche of them.

Another great point:

The Conversion Practices draft bill is anti-Cass - Transgender Trend
https://www.transgendertrend.com/conversion-practices-draft-bill-anti-cass/

I hope so too. I wonder what the government's ultimate aim with this bill is? Who are they trying to appease? Many TRAs are unhappy with it. I saw Nadia Whittome, no 1 trans ally in parliament, getting grief over it the other day.

When the bill faces scrutiny in the Lords and hopefully some amendments follow, TRAs are going to be even less happy and will despise Labour even more.

Fortunately, it seems like there's quite a path for this to travel before it becomes law. It's a battle I can't see any government wanting to fight. I hope I’m right.

The bill is going to a joint committee for examination and possible ammendment before many other debates and votes in both houses.

See earlier in thread for details on creation of and who might be on committee - there has to be a mix from opposition parties and both Houses.

Sex Matters examining the data

The £360,000 helpline that didn’t ring
Why is the government claiming to have evidence that 90,000 people a year suffer conversion therapy when almost no cases were ever reported to its national helpline?...

Researchers examined records from around 13,500 Galop clients over three years. From those they identified:

• 371 potential cases of conversion practice
• 195 cases with sufficient detail for analysis
• just 132 recent cases
• only 29 cases that came through any of Galop’s helplines.

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/the-360000-helpline-that-didnt-ring/

(posting this on a few different threads for traffic)

Burnham creates Reddit account to hold 'ask me anything' session

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-burnham-starmer-labour-tories-badenoch-farage-12593360

PM-in-waiting Andy Burnham will hold an "ask me anything" session on Reddit tomorrow as he seeks to share more about his vision with voters.

The Makerfield MP created his account two days ago, and posted a video on the very active "politics" subreddit asking for users to submit questions before the session at 5pm tomorrow. [Friday, 3 July 2026]

Might still be time to ask him about the Conversion Bill?

...only 20 minutes allocated for the debate, he was unable to do so.

Is that all the time this bill is going to get to be debated in the HoL's, or is this just the first of many 20mins, because if the government think this load of shit can just be whizzed through without proper scrutiny, it's given up all attempts at cosplaying at being a democracy.

Lord Collins of Highbury, UN Special Envoy for LBGTQIA2S+. WTAF when did we get one of those, since when does this country need one of those, whatever the fuck one of those is.

This has nothing to do with what this country needs, this is all about the Global Left.

Our government can't even run this country and it wants to be part of the international crowd that's trying to take over the world. 🤮

Toby Young isn't happy with the debate.

Yesterday in the House of Lords, the General Secretary of the Free Speech Union, Lord Young, had hoped to ask the Minister, Lord Collins of Highbury, a question about the Government’s draft Bill to ban conversion therapy practices. Sadly, with only 20 minutes allocated for the debate, he was unable to do so.

The Free Speech Union is concerned that this broad and poorly drafted Bill will criminalise well-intentioned conversations between parents and their gender-confused children. Under the Bill, parents could face up to five years behind bars. Religious leaders could also face prosecution for sharing their faith’s teachings on sex, gender and marriage.

In his intended speech, Lord Young was set to say: “We should call it the Dangerous Speech Bill because what it seeks to ban is any dissent from radical progressive orthodoxy on the subjects of sex and gender”.

Another concern Lord Young wished to raise was: “There’s no free speech defence, nor a faith-based defence, which previous governments have thought necessary to include when creating new speech offences, if only to avoid falling foul of the Human Rights Act”.

Read what Lord Young had intended to say below 👇

https://x.com/i/status/2072710526627434842

I expect he’ll do nuffink. There's always something more important and pressing than Lords reform.