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Discovery of prehistoric female-only cemetery changes what we know about early human society

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IwantToRetire · 24/06/2026 20:50

Evidence suggests very early development of prehistoric female cultural identity

New scientific evidence is now revealing that, some 300,000 years ago, a little-known and now long-extinct species of hominid - Homo naledi - developed what appears to have been a very complex form of communal organisation, involving extreme sex-based cultural segregation and very strong female gender identity.

The evidence strongly suggests that the species segregated dead males and females - and that potentially implies that the two sexes may well also have been socially and culturally segregated during their lives. It suggests that the female of the species developed a form of very strong gender-based cultural identity that may, potentially in some respects, have been a form of prehistoric feminism.

Ancient protein tests on their teeth have revealed that the species seem to have operated female-only cemeteries. What's more, some evidence strongly suggests that the individuals who transported those deceased females to their final resting place (a remote cave inside a hill) and then actually buried them, were themselves also female.

The species' males are archaeologically totally invisible. None have ever been found - and archaeologists have absolutely no idea what their role in society was or where they were buried.

Full article at https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/rising-star-cave-homo-naledi-feminism-cemetery-south-africa-b3002113.html

Prehistoric female-only cemetery changes what we know about early human society

Evidence suggests very early development of prehistoric female cultural identity

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/rising-star-cave-homo-naledi-feminism-cemetery-south-africa-b3002113.html

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ErrolTheDragon · 25/06/2026 10:37

IwantToRetire · 24/06/2026 23:06

It’s all about sex determination. There is no speculation about ‘gender identity’.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 25/06/2026 09:50

Maybe men buried at sea or in rivers like Vikings or burnt

lcakethereforeIam · 25/06/2026 09:00

I've been thinking more about the Rwandan island. I like to think it was done like the Spartans apparently did, interred the women who died in childbirth as warriors who died in battle, to do them honour. It could be for other reasons entirely. To keep 'bad luck' safely contained for example. There's undoubtedly more information out there but I chose to believe the former.

Similarly, the motivation of this ancient human species is unknown. Whether to do them honour, because they were terrified of them, a mixture or something else entirely, seems unlikely to be known for sure. Whatever it was it must have been extremely important to go to all that effort. The fact they discovered these tunnels demonstrates they were curious and their lives weren't just surviving from day to day.

Seriestwo · 25/06/2026 07:25

How did the prehistoric women find the cave? And how did a modern woman re-find it? There is no way I’d take myself off for a crawl through a superman/girl tunnel to see what was at the end of it. The original woman must have done it in the dark? And then they had to shove a dead body through the tunnel to bury them in a cave? This amazes me, that was not easy, they had sophisticated thinking determination and id love to understand their motivation to do something as hard as that.

agree re Rwanda, tragic.

lcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2026 23:24

Erm...

Discovery of prehistoric female-only cemetery changes what we know about early human society
IrnBruAndDietCoke · 24/06/2026 23:21

Indeed one of the most challenging passages was dubbed "Superman's Crawl," because, to pass through it, the scientists had to extend one arm forward - similar to images of Superman in flight.

They've missed a trick there. Supergirl flies like that as well. If only women go in there, it should be called "Supergirl's Crawl." Because she is female (and DC haven't fucked that up yet).

IwantToRetire · 24/06/2026 23:06

Original article:
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(26)00644-6

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IwantToRetire · 24/06/2026 22:56

lcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2026 22:40

If gender identity isn't mentioned in pieces like this is it even an article in the Independent? I'm just surprised they didn't try to shoehorn in evidence of a white European who'd rocked up in the past and spoiled their trans utopia by teaching them the difference between males and females. Probably at spear point.

The mention of the island where Rwandans took the bodies of women who'd died in childbirth brought a lump to my throat.

The mention of the island where Rwandans took the bodies of women who'd died in childbirth brought a lump to my throat.

Yes I was taken aback on reading that. I wonder how many other archaeological finds there have been, where because it is primarily men doing the work they haven't recognised something that is clearly about some thing to do or unique to women.

And this must be the basis of a Netflix series!

Much of the exploratory work inside Rising Star Cave (where the Homo naledi female cemetery is) was initially carried out by a group of six women scientists, nicknamed the "Underground Astronauts" - because of the difficulty and danger involved in reaching the cave's main chamber. They had been selected by the expedition leader, Lee Berger, who had used social media to recruit scientists with experience in paleontological excavations and caving but were also small enough and slender enough to crawl through the cave's extraordinarily narrow access passages. Indeed one of the most challenging passages was dubbed "Superman's Crawl," because, to pass through it, the scientists had to extend one arm forward - similar to images of Superman in flight.

Flowers Underground Astronauts!

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lcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2026 22:40

If gender identity isn't mentioned in pieces like this is it even an article in the Independent? I'm just surprised they didn't try to shoehorn in evidence of a white European who'd rocked up in the past and spoiled their trans utopia by teaching them the difference between males and females. Probably at spear point.

The mention of the island where Rwandans took the bodies of women who'd died in childbirth brought a lump to my throat.

theilltemperedamateur · 24/06/2026 21:56

My theories...

They killed and ate male offspring, keeping just a handful captive for stud purposes.

They had evolved to produce very few male offspring in the first place.

They lived like lions, with the women and children forming a hunter-gatherer collective, whilst males lived a solitary and brutish life in the wild, emerging only occasionally to fight each other to the death, steal food, and inseminate the females.

I don't get what the author thinks 'gender identity' has to do with it 🙄

Seriestwo · 24/06/2026 21:45

Sounds sensible and I hope it comes into fashion again soon

lcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2026 21:43

Fascinating. Thank you.