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Help! Son (13) with severely mental health issues thinks he is trans.

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Camille2906 · 24/06/2026 09:37

Please help me with my want-to-be-trans-child as I am more and more freaking out as his mother. As English is not my mother tongue, please excuse andy mistakes.

I am the mother of a nearly 14 year old boy who thinks he is transgender and wants to be a girl for one year now. Until now he has only socially transited outside of our home and any medication is not planned at all.

All of it started when he became suicidal and diagnosed with depression because of severe bullying at school. He is also profoundly gifted (IQ is 145), has diagnosed ADHD and probably some autistic traits (autism was ruled out). He has been quirky for his whole life and has never really fit in for the most of his life. We now that the idea of being transgender got introduced to him online (reddit, discord, roblox) where he was encouraged pretty much and praised for being trans. We have never affirmed him at all at home but we tell and show him everyday how much we love him as he is without insisting too much that we think all this transgender thing is nonsense and that he is still a boy. I still try to tell him my personal opinion quite often because I desperately hope, that this way, I will be louder than the trans activists. We also completely restricted his internet access since he came out and control what he is doing (he knows about it). So no more reddit, discord, anime, roblox and so on.

Since a week he is in a children- and youth psychiatric clinic for a stationary treatment as he is still suicidal despite all the therapies we did for the last 12 months. This was absolutely necessary.

But I am freaking out about the social transition. In his new school nearly everyone was absolutely fine with his wish to be called Luna and not Felix. And also in the clinic they respect this wish and call him Luna though he still has to be in a shared room with a boy and use the boys facilities. He bought himself some skirts from his pocket money but he doesn’t have them in the clinic. I explained to him that his time there is about healing and not about wearing skirts all the time because I am not there.

Because I am so scared of his future I told him what it really means to be a trans woman, about the surgeries, the lifelong medication and the risks and I even showed him videos of weirdo trans women fetishists. So now he doesn’t want to do anything medical anymore and changed from trans girl to demi boy and thinks he is gay (I’m fine with being gay!). That’s what he told me but I can’t believe him. He still doesn’t want to let go of this stupid girl name and tries to wear girl clothes whenever he can. Yesterday I visited him in the clinic and the girls made him his hair (he has long hair).

Sorry for the chaotic writing but my worries are eating me up more and more. The more I research about all this gender ideology the more I freak out.

His former therapist didn’t affirm him, also just the name thing…, and worked with the waiting approach. She told me that she thinks he has a huge identity crisis because he never fit in. Also she thinks that he is running away from the trauma of bullying in his old school by getting rid of this person and being someone else.

I am so lost. How should I go on with my son. I love him so much and I just can’t sit there and wait. So if anyone has some advice for me I would be quite happy.

Thank you for reading this long post!

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Camille2906 · 28/07/2026 17:18

@Lasaraha I will try to save and protect my son from this gender ideology the best I can in my life and forever. I will go on telling him the truth about this cult and what transitioning will do to him. I will also get him as much therapy from a gender critical therapist as he needs no matter how expensive this is.

If the price will be that I have to be ashamed when he is an adult one day and I couldn’t protect him enough, then this is the price I am absolutely willing to pay. But I still hope that this day never comes because until then he realised how harmful this cult is and stops himself.

By the way you said that me might choose one day to be trans no matter what he tells me at the moment. I thought you can only be born trans and you can not choose to be or not to be trans. That’s at least what I read everywhere from the activists. Maybe you should start to be consistent in what you tell people.

And believe me, I was always a very tolerant person but the day the trans cult groomed my son (Reddit did!), my inner self completely changed.

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ScrollingLeaves · 28/07/2026 17:04

Lasaraha · 28/07/2026 16:44

I think this is quite common for ND children who feel different, and as your child you can hold your boundary whilst also being supportive. It sounds like you’re very scared and I wonder what therapy you’ve had to think about how you can support your child?

I think some of the language you’ve used could be quite offensive to some, and you need to remember that your son may still decide that they do want to be transgender when they are an adult, and could be left with shame from the way you’ve spoken about things with him and may end up choosing to have a different relationship to you. It’s not really clear whether the reason he’s changed his mind about some things is because he knows that’s what you want. I think it might be a good idea to equip him with information and talk together about his age and life stage before making further decisions, but showing him videos to change his mind isn’t going to be helpful in the long term.

It doesn’t really matter what you believe because one day it will be his decision, right now you can put your ideology on to him but when he is older you can’t , and he will remember the things you’ve said and shown him.

right now you can put your ideology on to him

OP’s saying that he is a boy should not be called ‘ideology’.

Ideology is what has been pounding on him from clamouring Transactivists on-line and in society.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/07/2026 16:59

Camille2906 · 24/06/2026 10:04

Thank you for your answer.

But he is a boy and he is also not non-binary. I won’t change from one ideology to another. I strongly believe in biology and that a human being can either bei male or female defined by his biology.

He does not have to live up to any gender stereotypes and we never enforced them. He was allowed to dance ballet when he was younger, to have long hair as long as I can remember and much more but he was and always will be a boy.

I deeply regret that I have been so open minded but I have never thought that dancing ballet as a child is now used by him as an argument that he has always been trans. The same goes for his long hair.

Please tell him that all men used to have long hair. And many do now. That does not mean they are trans. What about Samson in the Bible whose hair was his (masculine) strength.

Show him all the brilliant male ballet dancers who are not trans. Nureyev, Baryshnikov, Nijinsky, Acosta to name but a few. Let him see their beautiful, skilled, powerful male bodies.

Lasaraha · 28/07/2026 16:44

I think this is quite common for ND children who feel different, and as your child you can hold your boundary whilst also being supportive. It sounds like you’re very scared and I wonder what therapy you’ve had to think about how you can support your child?

I think some of the language you’ve used could be quite offensive to some, and you need to remember that your son may still decide that they do want to be transgender when they are an adult, and could be left with shame from the way you’ve spoken about things with him and may end up choosing to have a different relationship to you. It’s not really clear whether the reason he’s changed his mind about some things is because he knows that’s what you want. I think it might be a good idea to equip him with information and talk together about his age and life stage before making further decisions, but showing him videos to change his mind isn’t going to be helpful in the long term.

It doesn’t really matter what you believe because one day it will be his decision, right now you can put your ideology on to him but when he is older you can’t , and he will remember the things you’ve said and shown him.

Seethlaw · 28/07/2026 16:02

EmpressaurusKitty · 28/07/2026 15:51

Trans Reddit uk seems to be full of people encouraging kids to DIY. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some of the site users would be happy to act as go-betweens for purchases.

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Ugh. Right. I should have thought of that. Going behind parents' back to procure drugs for a young teenager: stellar behaviour, right there 😡

Honestly, Camille, if it were me, I'd make him put together a whole project about it. I'd have him write everything out and then formally present it to you. What are the various types of trans? Why does he think he is one in particular? What does he know about the treatments for it - in great medical details? What are the potential risks? What are the potential lifelong complications? What are the consequences on his future sexuality and dating? What are the consequences on his future fertility and how does he intend to prevent them? And so on. And also: how does he intend to pay for this lifelong treatment?

He wants to take an adult's decision, he should be expected to prove that he has thought about it in an adult's way.

Camille2906 · 28/07/2026 16:00

He is a way too bright naive child with ADHD and probably at least some autistic traits.
He has an online bank account but never used it without asking permission. But of course he could open something like paypal? Does he have to prove his age there? I did my account years ago and can’t remember I had to prove anything beside having an bank account.

As he is so naive I was thinking of telling him that ordering medication online is illegal in Germany and as he is getting 14 next months he will then face severe consequences if he is getting caught.

I am also thinking about cutting off the internet at home completely and only use 5G for myself. I might also get him a non smartphone or a safe child phone because he managed to jailbreak his iphone and get around the child protection more than once.

The problem is, that he often tells us he’s having suicidal thoughts (that’s why he in the clinic) but we more and more assume that this is a way his brain learned will give him what he wants. But I never know and this freaks me out because I’m so scared of losing him.

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EmpressaurusKitty · 28/07/2026 15:51

Seethlaw · 28/07/2026 15:45

Maybe it's a stupid question but: how is he supposed to buy the hormones? Surely he can't buy anything on the net without one of his parents' approval or help?

Trans Reddit uk seems to be full of people encouraging kids to DIY. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some of the site users would be happy to act as go-betweens for purchases.

Seethlaw · 28/07/2026 15:45

Maybe it's a stupid question but: how is he supposed to buy the hormones? Surely he can't buy anything on the net without one of his parents' approval or help?

Camille2906 · 28/07/2026 15:41

Latest news is that I found out he was searching for DIY HRT when he came home from the clinic for the weekend.

I thought I blocked all internet on his phone but he found a way that you can open and use the internet via google earth.

I’m shocked and scared again and even worse and just have the feeling I want to give up and give in on the whole thing.

The only thing in my mind is what I did wrong with him and how I can stop this shit immediately.

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HoppityBun · 28/06/2026 16:01

I know that your son is wanting to transition and I can see that you’ve quite rightly been referred in the first post to the Bayswater Support Group. You might also find helpful information here: https://www.detranspathway.com

Going back, but moving forward.

Detransition Pathway UK

https://www.detranspathway.com

Camille2906 · 28/06/2026 15:37

HellishPersona · 27/06/2026 18:38

"I even showed him videos of weirdo trans women fetishists."
You showed your 13 year old videos of what???

Calm down.

I showed him a reel in Instagram of a, I guess 50 years old, trans woman who was dressed in a skirt, wore a wig and thick make-up and did weird dances in this video.
The person was not naked or anything dangerous in the video. It was just really weird and sad to look at.

Some trans-women might pass, especially when they are younger, but all the pictures off middle-aged trans women I have seen yet, look all the same. The moment your youth vanishes, the mail traits become obviously no matter how match HRT you take.

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blacksax · 28/06/2026 12:47

WarriorN · 27/06/2026 07:19

Male Ballet dancers are some of the strongest males around

You can say that again. For anyone interested, try and find the documentary about Royal Ballet Principal Steven McRae and his return to dancing after a horrible injury. It's called 'Dancing back to the light' I think.

Incidentally, he's married and has three kids.

HellishPersona · 27/06/2026 18:38

"I even showed him videos of weirdo trans women fetishists."
You showed your 13 year old videos of what???

SwirlyGates · 27/06/2026 10:33

@maybeibelongamongthestars "transphobes", "cis"...

If you want to discuss with us, don't insult us.

Shortshriftandlethal · 27/06/2026 08:26

WarriorN · 27/06/2026 07:19

Male Ballet dancers are some of the strongest males around

Yes, i know...they have to be to lift up their female counterparts.

WarriorN · 27/06/2026 07:19

Shortshriftandlethal · 24/06/2026 11:28

Maybe because it will be mainly girls who attend ( I imagine).

Male Ballet dancers are some of the strongest males around

anyolddinosaur · 27/06/2026 07:14

You dont have to quote a wall of text to reply to someone and it doesnt help anyone.

There is a court case going on at present where a man who wants to believe he is female is demonstrating very well that transition can damage your mental health. The Finnish study showed that adolescent transition does not improve mental health and can make it considerably worse. A sensible parent will do what they can to discourage transition.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 26/06/2026 09:17

maybeibelongamongthestars · 26/06/2026 04:12

Hello. What exactly do you mean by "medical things"? Do you even know what it is like to transition? There's no need for sugeries (for the most part) and even if wanting to go to this point, I don't know about how it's like in Germany but I know that, at least in France, all costs are paid by the governement. So maybe that is the case as well in Germany. Though, despite how much painful it was to read some of the posts and despite that me saying that might expose me to haters but as a trans person, first of all, de-transitioning cases are about below 1% of trans people. Please don't shove your own fear into your children, of course if you keep telling them about that, it must be extremely scary. Taking estrogen would do more than just body changes so if they are taking it, if they at first referred to themselves as "trans-femme" then it's giving me the impression that ending up to considering themselves a demi-boy instead could have been because of you? Or maybe to make it easier to you. Or maybe the fear of really going through transitioning BUT if they got to even consider transitioning or if they'd even have a chosen name, then, that definitely sound like being transgender. Cis(non-trans) persons doesn't get to want to transition. Also I do not know if by mental illness, you're referring to this but I sure hope that it's not the case. I wouldn't be surprised if people came to contradict me on it since transphobes love to do everything they can to be a nuisance to a kind of persons they doesn't understand. Also, I did see that in some messages, someone talked about how they thought that the gender one was assigned at birth defined what they are forever and that is wrong. hormone replacement therapy or HRT for short will not only make physical changes. It does that though but these are only bonus. Into MtF, it will give natural breasts for example but before anything, it will rewrites someone's brain chemistry. I did experience it myself. At the beginning, I even got to think that I was suddenly broken as my brain switch from being "male" to being "female". So, please don't think or make your daughter(or son if you'd prefer to call them that) of anything different, I don't know about whatever researches you might have gone through, if you found topics made by transphobes etc, there, i'll be real and explain from the perspective of a person that did it or joined a community of other trans persons. I'm not gonna say that, transitioning is all magical and enjoyable, no. The brutal truth is, this hurt like nothing can hurt you more and when a person go as far as doing this, it's because they HAVE to. It's because it's who they truly are, we don't 'want' to become trans. We ARE trans, it's inside of a person from the start, they just notice the signs one by one. Also, this takes up to 10 years for all the body changes and to fully transition. Also, considering that cis persons cannot understand how it's like to be trans since they didn't go through all that, it can become more and more scary to even interact with cis individuals because, for example having cis friends, trying explaining a situation from your non-cis perspective, they can only understand the cis person pov which most of the time can only make it more painful if they were venting to a friend for example. Trying to understand something that you cannot is the worse mistake someone can do, it can sounds illogical but the best thing to do is just to accept them as they are, no matter what they feel like being. Still loving them and letting them express it and not bottling up it to just adapt to what you think they should be. Like I wrote a bit upper too, it can take up to around 10 years and a lot of us tend to procrastinate until one day when we decide to finally embrace our true selves. I have even seen persons transitioning at 60+. I personally have procrastinated until 30 even though I did know from being around 20. So if they do it now, then by the time they are a grown-up, they will be how they really feel considering that it is how they really feel. Otherwise, if certain factors like for example the fear you might have put into them by talking about detransitioning cases which, like I said are <1% of us, maybe they will be bottling it up and still do it many years later while already being part of the society, eventually having a work etc. And in the middle of that, having to transition there, in the middle of everything. Also making friends that most likely could stop wanting to interact with them whenever they'd come out as a trans person. So, as a parent, what you should be doing is not to worry about them being indoctrinated because it's not how it works. If someone tried convincing you to become a man, you wouldn't even like the idea, right? There can be doubts, though. Another thing is, if they were considering themselves lesbian and a transfem, then it's exactly that. Transwomans are transwomans. They're not mans. They're not womans either. If you are worried about that they might get in trouble, it would be even worse if they ended up doing it themselves or without a doctor. Some choose this way while living in countries where it is even dangerous for their own safety to come out as trans. If you really care and love for your children, then accept whatever they are. That is as simple as that. Try your best at guiding them without your own personal opinion, you have to make sure that what they want is really what they want and not to fit to what fears they might have now. Also, if ever the genetic of being assigned male at birth worries you or them because for example facial hair, for example, the use of a "foil shaver" can help a lot in reducing gender dysphoria. There's also laser/electrosis for hair removal with laser being semi-permanent (lasts the longest) and electrosis being permanent and the really biggest part of medical things is facial feminization surgery. Or top surgery. Some even goes to bottom surgery but even without any of these, it is still very possible to look feminine. Generally transwomans tend to start coming out as fem after around 1 year - 1 and a half year of HRT though at this point, they might look feminine but not yet able to pass like any other ciswoman, by transitioning while being older and having more self awareness, it might be more painful. We can have to wait for a minimum of 2-3 years to start looking at least really feminine. The very rough part of transitioning is not even that. It's not about feminizing your face, your appearance or other. It's feminizing your voice. It can be very difficult. Even doctors supposed to help with that can give wrong guidance from what I have heard. There are a lot of steps, a lot of mistakes to avoid as well. Having to learn to work your larynx, to learning to use something we call "resonance". Having to learn to speak in a feminine voice, to not try too hard to go in a high pitch too, to learn to soften your voice. To practice 'voice fry' and to learn about speaking in a more feminine way. It's a very rough life but it's not one that trans people 'choose' because, even myself as one, I sincerely wish sometimes I could just be cis. I don't wish for all this pain to happen to anybody else but in the end of transition, there is the happiness of being who a person truly is. So that can be worth it if it is really what they feel like they are.

I am so very sorry but you have been told a lot of things that may be comfortng to you but they aren't really true. The 1% regret statistic is long out of date and is based on misunderstandings and on missing data.

Suppressing testosterone and putting exogneous hormones like oestrogen into your body will certainly have significant mental and cognitive effects but they don't really make your brain female. That's a huge over-simplification to the point of being a misrepresentation.

Some people do achieve happiness through transition. I hope you are one of them. But the numbers who don't achieve happiness and do regret are much higher than 1% (and of course it is impossible to "detransition" after surgery, there is no way to re-attach a penis.) One key thing you said is: "in the end of transition, there is the happiness of being who a person truly is." But in reality there is no "end of transition". The fact there is still something more you that want to do should give you pause. There will always be something else because your body is not female, the results of medication and surgery barely look (or sound) female and they certainly don't function the way female bodies do. You will always be living with that discontent and discomfort. A high proportion of people who try medical transition eventually decide that being "trans" and trying to medicalise doesn't help with their discontent or their discomfort. And that all they have achieved is deeper discontent and worse discomfort in a body that's now been permanently changed and damaged and can't be repaired. From a physically functioning male body to a body that does not function well as either sex. Don't compare yourself to the very late transitioners, to the cross-dressers and AGPs who only decide much later in life that they are "really" women. Their trajectory is not yours.

I understand that you can't just "be cis". You may always experience some level of discomfort. But there really are less risky ways to cope than what you're doing.

I wish you good fortune and hope your choices continue to make you happy.

Seethlaw · 26/06/2026 09:04

maybeibelongamongthestars · 26/06/2026 04:12

Hello. What exactly do you mean by "medical things"? Do you even know what it is like to transition? There's no need for sugeries (for the most part) and even if wanting to go to this point, I don't know about how it's like in Germany but I know that, at least in France, all costs are paid by the governement. So maybe that is the case as well in Germany. Though, despite how much painful it was to read some of the posts and despite that me saying that might expose me to haters but as a trans person, first of all, de-transitioning cases are about below 1% of trans people. Please don't shove your own fear into your children, of course if you keep telling them about that, it must be extremely scary. Taking estrogen would do more than just body changes so if they are taking it, if they at first referred to themselves as "trans-femme" then it's giving me the impression that ending up to considering themselves a demi-boy instead could have been because of you? Or maybe to make it easier to you. Or maybe the fear of really going through transitioning BUT if they got to even consider transitioning or if they'd even have a chosen name, then, that definitely sound like being transgender. Cis(non-trans) persons doesn't get to want to transition. Also I do not know if by mental illness, you're referring to this but I sure hope that it's not the case. I wouldn't be surprised if people came to contradict me on it since transphobes love to do everything they can to be a nuisance to a kind of persons they doesn't understand. Also, I did see that in some messages, someone talked about how they thought that the gender one was assigned at birth defined what they are forever and that is wrong. hormone replacement therapy or HRT for short will not only make physical changes. It does that though but these are only bonus. Into MtF, it will give natural breasts for example but before anything, it will rewrites someone's brain chemistry. I did experience it myself. At the beginning, I even got to think that I was suddenly broken as my brain switch from being "male" to being "female". So, please don't think or make your daughter(or son if you'd prefer to call them that) of anything different, I don't know about whatever researches you might have gone through, if you found topics made by transphobes etc, there, i'll be real and explain from the perspective of a person that did it or joined a community of other trans persons. I'm not gonna say that, transitioning is all magical and enjoyable, no. The brutal truth is, this hurt like nothing can hurt you more and when a person go as far as doing this, it's because they HAVE to. It's because it's who they truly are, we don't 'want' to become trans. We ARE trans, it's inside of a person from the start, they just notice the signs one by one. Also, this takes up to 10 years for all the body changes and to fully transition. Also, considering that cis persons cannot understand how it's like to be trans since they didn't go through all that, it can become more and more scary to even interact with cis individuals because, for example having cis friends, trying explaining a situation from your non-cis perspective, they can only understand the cis person pov which most of the time can only make it more painful if they were venting to a friend for example. Trying to understand something that you cannot is the worse mistake someone can do, it can sounds illogical but the best thing to do is just to accept them as they are, no matter what they feel like being. Still loving them and letting them express it and not bottling up it to just adapt to what you think they should be. Like I wrote a bit upper too, it can take up to around 10 years and a lot of us tend to procrastinate until one day when we decide to finally embrace our true selves. I have even seen persons transitioning at 60+. I personally have procrastinated until 30 even though I did know from being around 20. So if they do it now, then by the time they are a grown-up, they will be how they really feel considering that it is how they really feel. Otherwise, if certain factors like for example the fear you might have put into them by talking about detransitioning cases which, like I said are <1% of us, maybe they will be bottling it up and still do it many years later while already being part of the society, eventually having a work etc. And in the middle of that, having to transition there, in the middle of everything. Also making friends that most likely could stop wanting to interact with them whenever they'd come out as a trans person. So, as a parent, what you should be doing is not to worry about them being indoctrinated because it's not how it works. If someone tried convincing you to become a man, you wouldn't even like the idea, right? There can be doubts, though. Another thing is, if they were considering themselves lesbian and a transfem, then it's exactly that. Transwomans are transwomans. They're not mans. They're not womans either. If you are worried about that they might get in trouble, it would be even worse if they ended up doing it themselves or without a doctor. Some choose this way while living in countries where it is even dangerous for their own safety to come out as trans. If you really care and love for your children, then accept whatever they are. That is as simple as that. Try your best at guiding them without your own personal opinion, you have to make sure that what they want is really what they want and not to fit to what fears they might have now. Also, if ever the genetic of being assigned male at birth worries you or them because for example facial hair, for example, the use of a "foil shaver" can help a lot in reducing gender dysphoria. There's also laser/electrosis for hair removal with laser being semi-permanent (lasts the longest) and electrosis being permanent and the really biggest part of medical things is facial feminization surgery. Or top surgery. Some even goes to bottom surgery but even without any of these, it is still very possible to look feminine. Generally transwomans tend to start coming out as fem after around 1 year - 1 and a half year of HRT though at this point, they might look feminine but not yet able to pass like any other ciswoman, by transitioning while being older and having more self awareness, it might be more painful. We can have to wait for a minimum of 2-3 years to start looking at least really feminine. The very rough part of transitioning is not even that. It's not about feminizing your face, your appearance or other. It's feminizing your voice. It can be very difficult. Even doctors supposed to help with that can give wrong guidance from what I have heard. There are a lot of steps, a lot of mistakes to avoid as well. Having to learn to work your larynx, to learning to use something we call "resonance". Having to learn to speak in a feminine voice, to not try too hard to go in a high pitch too, to learn to soften your voice. To practice 'voice fry' and to learn about speaking in a more feminine way. It's a very rough life but it's not one that trans people 'choose' because, even myself as one, I sincerely wish sometimes I could just be cis. I don't wish for all this pain to happen to anybody else but in the end of transition, there is the happiness of being who a person truly is. So that can be worth it if it is really what they feel like they are.

de-transitioning cases are about below 1% of trans people

You don't know that. Nobody knows that because there are no proper studies made on that topic. However, the sheer number of detransitioners on detrans sites or in detrans associations points to a much bigger proportion than 1%.

if they got to even consider transitioning or if they'd even have a chosen name, then, that definitely sound like being transgender

Nah. Teenagers are famously influenceable, and there's absolutely a social contagion aspect to teens identifying as trans in such massive numbers.

the gender one was assigned at birth defined what they are forever and that is wrong. hormone replacement therapy or HRT for short will not only make physical changes.

Please tell me you don't believe you can actually change your sex?

it will rewrites someone's brain chemistry. I did experience it myself. At the beginning, I even got to think that I was suddenly broken as my brain switch from being "male" to being "female"

Please give an example of what a male brain is like, and what a female brain is like.

i'll be real and explain from the perspective of a person that did it or joined a community of other trans persons

Loads of people here have experience with having trans family members, with being gender non-conforming, or even with being trans themselves.

I'm not gonna say that, transitioning is all magical and enjoyable, no. The brutal truth is, this hurt like nothing can hurt you more

If you really think that, then you haven't experienced much pain in your life.

We ARE trans, it's inside of a person from the start, they just notice the signs one by one.

Do you have examples of such "signs"?

for example having cis friends, trying explaining a situation from your non-cis perspective, they can only understand the cis person pov

Really? You think nobody can ever understand the perspective of someone different from them?

Trying to understand something that you cannot is the worse mistake someone can do, it can sounds illogical but the best thing to do is just to accept them as they are, no matter what they feel like being.

Okay. So stop trying to understand GC people and just accept them as they are.

maybe they will be bottling it up and still do it many years later while already being part of the society, eventually having a work etc. And in the middle of that, having to transition there, in the middle of everything. Also making friends that most likely could stop wanting to interact with them whenever they'd come out as a trans person.

You do realise that a teen is just as much "part of the society" as an adult, right? Coming out at school is no easier than at work, and having friends who leave you happens to teens as much as adults.

If you really care and love for your children, then accept whatever they are. That is as simple as that.

Yes, indeed, and what this boy is, is a boy.

It's a very rough life

The more the reason not to encourage anyone into it, then.

CassOle · 26/06/2026 08:39

Anyone who seriously uses the term 'cis' or states the 'under 1% regret' statistic as if it is an undisputed fact is pushing an agenda.

Camille2906 · 26/06/2026 08:29

maybeibelongamongthestars · 26/06/2026 04:12

Hello. What exactly do you mean by "medical things"? Do you even know what it is like to transition? There's no need for sugeries (for the most part) and even if wanting to go to this point, I don't know about how it's like in Germany but I know that, at least in France, all costs are paid by the governement. So maybe that is the case as well in Germany. Though, despite how much painful it was to read some of the posts and despite that me saying that might expose me to haters but as a trans person, first of all, de-transitioning cases are about below 1% of trans people. Please don't shove your own fear into your children, of course if you keep telling them about that, it must be extremely scary. Taking estrogen would do more than just body changes so if they are taking it, if they at first referred to themselves as "trans-femme" then it's giving me the impression that ending up to considering themselves a demi-boy instead could have been because of you? Or maybe to make it easier to you. Or maybe the fear of really going through transitioning BUT if they got to even consider transitioning or if they'd even have a chosen name, then, that definitely sound like being transgender. Cis(non-trans) persons doesn't get to want to transition. Also I do not know if by mental illness, you're referring to this but I sure hope that it's not the case. I wouldn't be surprised if people came to contradict me on it since transphobes love to do everything they can to be a nuisance to a kind of persons they doesn't understand. Also, I did see that in some messages, someone talked about how they thought that the gender one was assigned at birth defined what they are forever and that is wrong. hormone replacement therapy or HRT for short will not only make physical changes. It does that though but these are only bonus. Into MtF, it will give natural breasts for example but before anything, it will rewrites someone's brain chemistry. I did experience it myself. At the beginning, I even got to think that I was suddenly broken as my brain switch from being "male" to being "female". So, please don't think or make your daughter(or son if you'd prefer to call them that) of anything different, I don't know about whatever researches you might have gone through, if you found topics made by transphobes etc, there, i'll be real and explain from the perspective of a person that did it or joined a community of other trans persons. I'm not gonna say that, transitioning is all magical and enjoyable, no. The brutal truth is, this hurt like nothing can hurt you more and when a person go as far as doing this, it's because they HAVE to. It's because it's who they truly are, we don't 'want' to become trans. We ARE trans, it's inside of a person from the start, they just notice the signs one by one. Also, this takes up to 10 years for all the body changes and to fully transition. Also, considering that cis persons cannot understand how it's like to be trans since they didn't go through all that, it can become more and more scary to even interact with cis individuals because, for example having cis friends, trying explaining a situation from your non-cis perspective, they can only understand the cis person pov which most of the time can only make it more painful if they were venting to a friend for example. Trying to understand something that you cannot is the worse mistake someone can do, it can sounds illogical but the best thing to do is just to accept them as they are, no matter what they feel like being. Still loving them and letting them express it and not bottling up it to just adapt to what you think they should be. Like I wrote a bit upper too, it can take up to around 10 years and a lot of us tend to procrastinate until one day when we decide to finally embrace our true selves. I have even seen persons transitioning at 60+. I personally have procrastinated until 30 even though I did know from being around 20. So if they do it now, then by the time they are a grown-up, they will be how they really feel considering that it is how they really feel. Otherwise, if certain factors like for example the fear you might have put into them by talking about detransitioning cases which, like I said are <1% of us, maybe they will be bottling it up and still do it many years later while already being part of the society, eventually having a work etc. And in the middle of that, having to transition there, in the middle of everything. Also making friends that most likely could stop wanting to interact with them whenever they'd come out as a trans person. So, as a parent, what you should be doing is not to worry about them being indoctrinated because it's not how it works. If someone tried convincing you to become a man, you wouldn't even like the idea, right? There can be doubts, though. Another thing is, if they were considering themselves lesbian and a transfem, then it's exactly that. Transwomans are transwomans. They're not mans. They're not womans either. If you are worried about that they might get in trouble, it would be even worse if they ended up doing it themselves or without a doctor. Some choose this way while living in countries where it is even dangerous for their own safety to come out as trans. If you really care and love for your children, then accept whatever they are. That is as simple as that. Try your best at guiding them without your own personal opinion, you have to make sure that what they want is really what they want and not to fit to what fears they might have now. Also, if ever the genetic of being assigned male at birth worries you or them because for example facial hair, for example, the use of a "foil shaver" can help a lot in reducing gender dysphoria. There's also laser/electrosis for hair removal with laser being semi-permanent (lasts the longest) and electrosis being permanent and the really biggest part of medical things is facial feminization surgery. Or top surgery. Some even goes to bottom surgery but even without any of these, it is still very possible to look feminine. Generally transwomans tend to start coming out as fem after around 1 year - 1 and a half year of HRT though at this point, they might look feminine but not yet able to pass like any other ciswoman, by transitioning while being older and having more self awareness, it might be more painful. We can have to wait for a minimum of 2-3 years to start looking at least really feminine. The very rough part of transitioning is not even that. It's not about feminizing your face, your appearance or other. It's feminizing your voice. It can be very difficult. Even doctors supposed to help with that can give wrong guidance from what I have heard. There are a lot of steps, a lot of mistakes to avoid as well. Having to learn to work your larynx, to learning to use something we call "resonance". Having to learn to speak in a feminine voice, to not try too hard to go in a high pitch too, to learn to soften your voice. To practice 'voice fry' and to learn about speaking in a more feminine way. It's a very rough life but it's not one that trans people 'choose' because, even myself as one, I sincerely wish sometimes I could just be cis. I don't wish for all this pain to happen to anybody else but in the end of transition, there is the happiness of being who a person truly is. So that can be worth it if it is really what they feel like they are.

Thank you for your answer but I think we are standing completely opposite sites of the topic.

This thread is about MY child and as I am his parent (together with his dad) it is also the decision of us parents how we raise our kid and what values are important to us. If that makes me transphobic, so I’m fine with being labelled as such.

I don’t believe in being born in a wrong body at all. There might be cases where the outcomes of a body dysphoria are so distressing that a medical transition might be the last opportunity for this person but for me, the amount of these people is a infinite small percentage of all the self-identified trans people nowadays.

The young teenager we are talking about here, is a child with severe mental health issues who started way before he even considered being trans might be the solution of his problems. He has a severe depression with suicidal thoughts (no, us not affirming was not the cause for that), diagnosed ADHD, possible autistic traits and a profoundly giftedness. He has been a quirky and weird nerd, who hasn’t fit in anywhere for his whole life.

This child is a very small, thin and fragile looking boy who is up to two years younger than his classmates. As they all got into puberty, started growing in height and having beards, my son still looks like a child. He can’t keep up in sports with them, isn’t interested in football and looks more like a 10 year old girl at the moment.

Then he found out about the possibility of being trans in the internet (reddit) and unfortunately he was in a roblox chat group at that time which I found out about too late. There everyone suddenly praised him for his courage and he was respected for that and not being laughed at anymore. He never had to show his physical appearance there.

For me (and his therapist), the idea of suddenly being trans was a search of a solution for his problems and a chance to run away from them. By being someone completely different to its old self, he thought he doesn’t have to work on all what happens. Now he is Luna and Felix is away. And with Felix being gone, all the bullying and never fitting in is gone too.

Let me just tell you one thing. None of his problems in the last 12 months got any smaller by declaring he is a girl and using make-up, even nearly everyone in school affirmed his new self. He is still suicidal and that’s because of his diagnoses and because his mom is not affirming him.

OP posts:
sashh · 26/06/2026 05:34

I don't have anything practical to tell you, others are giving you advice so I won't.

But I will say you sound like an awesome parent. You are dealing with a truly awful set of cicumstances.

maybeibelongamongthestars · 26/06/2026 04:12

Hello. What exactly do you mean by "medical things"? Do you even know what it is like to transition? There's no need for sugeries (for the most part) and even if wanting to go to this point, I don't know about how it's like in Germany but I know that, at least in France, all costs are paid by the governement. So maybe that is the case as well in Germany. Though, despite how much painful it was to read some of the posts and despite that me saying that might expose me to haters but as a trans person, first of all, de-transitioning cases are about below 1% of trans people. Please don't shove your own fear into your children, of course if you keep telling them about that, it must be extremely scary. Taking estrogen would do more than just body changes so if they are taking it, if they at first referred to themselves as "trans-femme" then it's giving me the impression that ending up to considering themselves a demi-boy instead could have been because of you? Or maybe to make it easier to you. Or maybe the fear of really going through transitioning BUT if they got to even consider transitioning or if they'd even have a chosen name, then, that definitely sound like being transgender. Cis(non-trans) persons doesn't get to want to transition. Also I do not know if by mental illness, you're referring to this but I sure hope that it's not the case. I wouldn't be surprised if people came to contradict me on it since transphobes love to do everything they can to be a nuisance to a kind of persons they doesn't understand. Also, I did see that in some messages, someone talked about how they thought that the gender one was assigned at birth defined what they are forever and that is wrong. hormone replacement therapy or HRT for short will not only make physical changes. It does that though but these are only bonus. Into MtF, it will give natural breasts for example but before anything, it will rewrites someone's brain chemistry. I did experience it myself. At the beginning, I even got to think that I was suddenly broken as my brain switch from being "male" to being "female". So, please don't think or make your daughter(or son if you'd prefer to call them that) of anything different, I don't know about whatever researches you might have gone through, if you found topics made by transphobes etc, there, i'll be real and explain from the perspective of a person that did it or joined a community of other trans persons. I'm not gonna say that, transitioning is all magical and enjoyable, no. The brutal truth is, this hurt like nothing can hurt you more and when a person go as far as doing this, it's because they HAVE to. It's because it's who they truly are, we don't 'want' to become trans. We ARE trans, it's inside of a person from the start, they just notice the signs one by one. Also, this takes up to 10 years for all the body changes and to fully transition. Also, considering that cis persons cannot understand how it's like to be trans since they didn't go through all that, it can become more and more scary to even interact with cis individuals because, for example having cis friends, trying explaining a situation from your non-cis perspective, they can only understand the cis person pov which most of the time can only make it more painful if they were venting to a friend for example. Trying to understand something that you cannot is the worse mistake someone can do, it can sounds illogical but the best thing to do is just to accept them as they are, no matter what they feel like being. Still loving them and letting them express it and not bottling up it to just adapt to what you think they should be. Like I wrote a bit upper too, it can take up to around 10 years and a lot of us tend to procrastinate until one day when we decide to finally embrace our true selves. I have even seen persons transitioning at 60+. I personally have procrastinated until 30 even though I did know from being around 20. So if they do it now, then by the time they are a grown-up, they will be how they really feel considering that it is how they really feel. Otherwise, if certain factors like for example the fear you might have put into them by talking about detransitioning cases which, like I said are <1% of us, maybe they will be bottling it up and still do it many years later while already being part of the society, eventually having a work etc. And in the middle of that, having to transition there, in the middle of everything. Also making friends that most likely could stop wanting to interact with them whenever they'd come out as a trans person. So, as a parent, what you should be doing is not to worry about them being indoctrinated because it's not how it works. If someone tried convincing you to become a man, you wouldn't even like the idea, right? There can be doubts, though. Another thing is, if they were considering themselves lesbian and a transfem, then it's exactly that. Transwomans are transwomans. They're not mans. They're not womans either. If you are worried about that they might get in trouble, it would be even worse if they ended up doing it themselves or without a doctor. Some choose this way while living in countries where it is even dangerous for their own safety to come out as trans. If you really care and love for your children, then accept whatever they are. That is as simple as that. Try your best at guiding them without your own personal opinion, you have to make sure that what they want is really what they want and not to fit to what fears they might have now. Also, if ever the genetic of being assigned male at birth worries you or them because for example facial hair, for example, the use of a "foil shaver" can help a lot in reducing gender dysphoria. There's also laser/electrosis for hair removal with laser being semi-permanent (lasts the longest) and electrosis being permanent and the really biggest part of medical things is facial feminization surgery. Or top surgery. Some even goes to bottom surgery but even without any of these, it is still very possible to look feminine. Generally transwomans tend to start coming out as fem after around 1 year - 1 and a half year of HRT though at this point, they might look feminine but not yet able to pass like any other ciswoman, by transitioning while being older and having more self awareness, it might be more painful. We can have to wait for a minimum of 2-3 years to start looking at least really feminine. The very rough part of transitioning is not even that. It's not about feminizing your face, your appearance or other. It's feminizing your voice. It can be very difficult. Even doctors supposed to help with that can give wrong guidance from what I have heard. There are a lot of steps, a lot of mistakes to avoid as well. Having to learn to work your larynx, to learning to use something we call "resonance". Having to learn to speak in a feminine voice, to not try too hard to go in a high pitch too, to learn to soften your voice. To practice 'voice fry' and to learn about speaking in a more feminine way. It's a very rough life but it's not one that trans people 'choose' because, even myself as one, I sincerely wish sometimes I could just be cis. I don't wish for all this pain to happen to anybody else but in the end of transition, there is the happiness of being who a person truly is. So that can be worth it if it is really what they feel like they are.

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/06/2026 11:22

blacksax · 25/06/2026 11:05

A family friend is a principal dancer with the Royal Ballet. It hasn't turned him trans.

Oh for goodness sake! Nobody has suggested that being a dancer or a fotballer turns someone 'trans'. Nobody is 'trans' - if that means being the oppposite sex to that which you are. But we do have to acknowledge that gender stereotypes and associations exist.

Trans activists, and others clearly, get very confused as soon as they have to deal with more than one type or vector of information at a time. Trans activism is the death of critical thinking and logic. A skill that is in very short supply in recent times.

blacksax · 25/06/2026 11:05

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/06/2026 10:17

I'm not saying that ballet lessons turn a boy into a transgirl...I'm suggesting that it is perfectly conceivable ( for anyone with an imagination) that a young boy participating in heavily female dominated activities might start to feel he has more in common with girls, or at least more sympathy with 'feminine' pursuits.

There has always been a degree of stigma with boys doing ballet ( my husband, who had a Russian mother, did ballet as a child) and he remembers always feeling acutely embarrassed to be the only boy in the class. And yes, we all know that male ballet dancers have to be incredibly strong and athletic - partly because they spend a good amount of time lifting their female counter-parts.
Same as in ice dancing.

A family friend is a principal dancer with the Royal Ballet. It hasn't turned him trans.