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All transwomen are to be moved out of Scottish female prisons today. 🙌🏻

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sohard · 23/06/2026 12:48

https://x.com/forwomenscot/status/2069385340159225981?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Scotgov will not appeal and the current transgender policy has been withdrawn. At long bloody last!!

For Women Scotland (@ForWomenScot) on X

Scottish Government will not appeal Lady Ross's ruling on prisons.

https://x.com/forwomenscot/status/2069385340159225981?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

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AlexandraLeaving · 23/06/2026 16:35

PersonIrresponsible · 23/06/2026 13:59

The judge in Giggle v Tickle stated that Trans women wear V necks.

This should help narrow down which prisoners need to be transferred.

Damn. I missed that. So I’m actually a trans woman? Will I get special privileges now?!

GenderlessVoid · 23/06/2026 15:57

Wonderful news! I'm absolutely made up.

Massive thanks to FWS and everyone involved in keeping women safe. I am so relieved for the women in prison.

HappilyHarriet · 23/06/2026 15:56

Well done FWS!
See Swinney, it’s not that complicated after all.

NorthernIrishFeminist · 23/06/2026 15:51

Great news, as well as England next let’s not forget Hydebank Wood in Northern Ireland

MarjorieWestriding · 23/06/2026 15:26

Someone asked how many men are in women's prison in Scotland - the BBC article posted up-thread says this: "There were a total of 19 transgender inmates in Scotland's jails at the end of June 2025".

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2026 15:24

Brilliant news. Congrats to FWS and a massive thank you for their tenacity.

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2026 15:23

Iamnotalemming · 23/06/2026 12:50

Brilliant news.
Now pay FWS's legal bill, Swinney!

Yes.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 23/06/2026 15:07

Great news, England next. 💪👊
We don't have a women's prison in Wales, they're sent over the border to England, I wonder if the Senedd can be held responsible for sending women into danger when they do that?

Well done to all the groups who have campaigned so long and so hard for this, hopefully the one's still doing so in England can take heart with this victory and the UK government can take notice of how the SNP LOST over this.

wrongthinker · 23/06/2026 14:57

Brilliant news! Well done FWS and everyone who campaigned and talked about this. What a great result.

334bu · 23/06/2026 14:57

Well done FWS💐

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 23/06/2026 14:48

Hurrah 🎉

oldtiredcyclist · 23/06/2026 14:42

When are they going to remove males from women's prisons in England? As far as I am aware, former fell runner Lauren Jeska, who tried to murder UK Athletics HR head Ralph Knibbs in 2016, is still being held at HM Prison Foston Hall, which is a women's closed category prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Jeska

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Foston_Hall

Lauren Jeska - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Jeska

DauntlessDamson · 23/06/2026 14:20

This is the best news I've heard all week.

👏👏👏🍾 to FWS!

Toffeefudgecaramel · 23/06/2026 14:16

This murderer has been held in a women's prison for 10 years. He's in prison for luring a gay man to his home and stabbing him 16 times. After conviction he decided to identify as a woman. He also managed to get his criminal record expunged. He's recently been charged with sexually assaulting a woman at the prison (and I think may now be housed elsewhere, while awaiting trial). Presumably the Scottish Prison Service came to the conclusion that he was not an "unreasonable" danger to the female inmates.
Trans prisoner charged with sexual assault in women's jail - BBC News

A general view of the entrace to HMP Greenock. A small, dark stone wall sits in front of the main building with the name of the prison on a white panel.

Trans prisoner charged with sexual assault in women's jail

Alexandra Stewart, previously known as Alan Baker, was charged over an alleged attack at HMP Greenock.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glne43101o

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 23/06/2026 14:06

Massive thanks to everyone who campaigned! FlowersFlowers It would be nice to see SPS apologise to those poor women prisoners but I guess that's not how it works. Moving the male prisoners out matters most!

spannasaurus · 23/06/2026 14:00

I can't see that any transfers will take place today purely down to the logistics of finding spaces in another prison and arranging transport

PersonIrresponsible · 23/06/2026 13:59

The judge in Giggle v Tickle stated that Trans women wear V necks.

This should help narrow down which prisoners need to be transferred.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 23/06/2026 13:58

They can pass the time chatting with Peter Murrell about his £3000 robotic lawn mower

bathofbeans · 23/06/2026 13:56

Alucard55 · 23/06/2026 13:37

They'll look for the special women with nice lipstick on.

The ones with petticoats.

Lovelyview · 23/06/2026 13:51

This feels monumental. A clear result with the goal achieved. Now lets see what the English government does.

NotNatacha · 23/06/2026 13:49

Are we sure that the transfer will happen today, rather than the work to implement the transfer?

All transwomen are to be moved out of Scottish female prisons today. 🙌🏻
sohard · 23/06/2026 13:47

thisandthats · 23/06/2026 13:25

Does anyone know how many there actually are? Not disagreeing with the principle, just whether this is a bit of a victory of principle and actually in the end it's like one prisoner

Even if there were only one at this moment in time, even if there were none at this moment in time, there would be some in the future. I’m pretty sure there is more than one transwoman prisoner in a female prison at this moment in time though.

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Wishesandhorses · 23/06/2026 13:42

Also about viewing the women's resources and provisions as something men can be entitled to under any circumstances at all, as opposed to being for and about women.

quixote9 · 23/06/2026 13:38

Plus completely missing from mainstream reporting: that this isn't about trans people. It's about women. (You know. Those strange beings who are half the human race?)

The point is opening the door to men of bad faith to victimise women.

(Of which we have had plentiful examples lately. And since forever. These are physical facts. The evidence is everywhere. It doesn't vanish because the ones who suffer are women.)

Maybe mention the men who use every excuse for camouflage whether it's being Scoutmasters or being trans at least once in every discussion?

Because that is the point. (Some) men's appalling and criminal behavior.

If trans people don't like being limited by men's criminality, well, join the club. Women can talk to you about that.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/06/2026 13:37

Fantastic news! 🥳