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Don't defame a paedophile in Sweden

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lcakethereforeIam · 23/06/2026 08:52

I've just read this in the Telegraph

https://archive.ph/08Isb

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/22/woman-taking-on-lax-swedish-paedophile-laws/

I often get Sweden and Switzerland mixed-up so I'm not sure which one the tras come on here to tell us has self id and it has absolutely no problems. If it is Sweden though i can understand one reason why that might be. Such restrictive defamation laws would put off anyone making a complaint.

The woman was found guilty of defamation against the paedophile. Truth not being a defence. Unrepentant she's vowed to carry on 🦸‍♀️

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FinchiePink · 23/06/2026 16:48

DeanElderberry · 23/06/2026 16:36

recently in Ireland with innocent families being burnt out of their homes

eh? When? Where?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevl9j9y8dmo

Sudanese migrant attacks a man in the street. Riots to drive out all the "foreigners" to get justice ensue.

Jamie

Belfast knife attack disorder: I will never get over watching my home of 13 years burn down

A night of disorder in Belfast saw people forced to flee their homes, in protests that followed a knife attack in the north of the city.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevl9j9y8dmo

DeanElderberry · 23/06/2026 16:36

recently in Ireland with innocent families being burnt out of their homes

eh? When? Where?

FinchiePink · 23/06/2026 16:28

Dragonasaurus · 23/06/2026 16:07

Finchie, my issue is more that this is the law in the first place. If someone behaves a certain way, they shouldn’t be able to assume that nobody will mention it, especially when there is clear proof. Surely that’s a normal, and frankly beneficial, way that human society polices itself?

Her behaviour goes far beyond "mentioning"; she didn't just make an off-the-cuff comment about it in a conversation with a friend.

She posted on social media, publicly. It's the modern day equivalent of printing off a thousand posters and sticking them everywhere down the high street.

I would not say it's beneficial that society policies itself, no, given that we've seen the end result of that only recently in Ireland with innocent families being burnt out of their homes.

You don't have to look very hard for numerous stories of innocent people wrongly targeted by vigilante / paedophile hunter groups.

Dragonasaurus · 23/06/2026 16:07

Finchie, my issue is more that this is the law in the first place. If someone behaves a certain way, they shouldn’t be able to assume that nobody will mention it, especially when there is clear proof. Surely that’s a normal, and frankly beneficial, way that human society polices itself?

FinchiePink · 23/06/2026 15:54

I realise what sort of reaction this will get, so I'll put my hard hat on, but I'm with the Swedish courts on this.

"Mr Grey" is quite clearly an abhorrent individual.

That does not mean that other members of the public can disregard all laws and harass him, or commit any other crime against him, without repercussions. The law doesn't stop applying to you just because the object of your behaviour is a nonce.

We and Sweden have a court system and is not the job of the public to dispense summary justice.

If "Mr Grey" commits a crime then he should be dealt with by the proper legal process.

Vigilantes and paedophile hunters are highly problematic and in many cases actually jeopardise police cases, meaning these people are left to walk the street. She's not a superhero, she's actively making it more difficult for the authorities to prosecute these people.

pontefractals · 23/06/2026 13:01

Wasn't there a woman in the UK who was told off for being "untoward about paedophiles"? It's a phrase that sticks in my mind but I'm buggered if I can remember who it was. Like Pratchett's Detritus, my brain grinds to a halt in the heat...

lcakethereforeIam · 23/06/2026 10:19

It's definitely Sweden. The Telegraph can distinguish it from Switzerland, mixing them up is a me problem.

I'd be interested to know if the fine was on the low side, particularly harsh or neither. It might indicate nothing though, perhaps the judge doesn't have much discretion.

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IrnBruAndDietCoke · 23/06/2026 10:08

It really wouldn’t surprise me if it was Sweden, the original Swedish title for “The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo” in Swedish translates directly to Men Who Hate Women and it strongly comes across that this is deeply culturally embedded.

Dragonasaurus · 23/06/2026 10:04

It is astonishing how men with dangerous fetishes are prioritised over children.

The idea that certain powerful people think other people should be prevented from speaking the truth is, however, sadly familiar