Don't defame a paedophile in Sweden

Here's an academic study on the #MeToo prosecutions:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10691-024-09545-0

What's striking is that all were initiated by the State, and in none was the truth of the allegations examined. Twelve women were convicted of a criminal offence, receiving fines and/or suspended sentences; merely because they were deemed to have insufficient justification for exposing the men they claim to have raped or sexually assaulted them, regardless of those men's innocence or guilt.

OMG! Sweden isn't a nice country! Who knew? Cough. Covers up all past and present Nazi activities. Cough

Turns out the same law comes in handy for punishing women who make allegations of rape or sexual assault too:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/03/15/opinion/cissi-wallin-fredrik-virtanen-metoo-sweden.html

https://archive.ph/Ele2c

Moreover libel is a civil, not a criminal, offence in England.

We do have similar laws in England. Defamation by way of slander or libel is an offence. The law is not identical, but similar.

And you think that's a good law? Should we have a similar one in England?

I've seen videos of paedophile hunters apprehending despicable men caught red handed using similar stings. It gives immense satisfaction seeing them so shocked and shitting a brick. The hunters then hand over to the police and are charged, but as we've seen the sentencing is often pitiful. They can crawl out of a rock and reoffend over and over. The hunters are providing a valued service in my opinion. The evidence is clear so why not name and shame.

When a society loses faith and trust in the police and authorities to protect the vulnerable then self justice takes over.

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But three of those four options you've picked are governed by law, not by society...

She's not culpable for the harm other people may do.

She's only culpable for her own actions, which amount to defamation under Swedish law.

Do you think the N.I. police are culpable for the arson because they released a statement saying the suspect was a Sudanese immigrant? If not, why should 'Angeliqa' be culpable for any harm other people might do to 'Grey' because they now know he's a nonce? The only law she's broken is one that says you can't tell the truth about people if it shows them in bad light - which is a bonkers law. In any case all anyone seems to have done is shun him, which is presumably quite legal even in Sweden.

Society has to police itself. Drive on the correct side of the road, stop when the traffic lights turn red, pick up other people's litter, throw a lifebelt to a person id difficulty. If you turn all the control over to people in uniform you're in deep trouble.

So when a member of public pretends to be under age it can’t be used as evidence but when the police do it it can be. Wouldn’t it be better to push and campaign for the police to run more stings so they can actually do something with the evidence?

Yes, it was Kellie Jay Keen. Two police officers visited her home for the 'offence' of being untoward about paedophiles.

Taken from The Times - Following public backlash, Wiltshire Police—a force already under special measures for failing the public at the time—subsequently admitted that the officers' visit to Keen's home was "not wholly appropriate"

I didn't say it was similar, I said it was a good example of why I don't wish to see society policing itself.

I agree - same mindset, different targets.

FinchiePink - I don't see much similarity between potentially murderous arson attacks by racist thugs, and women using social media - whether legally or illegally - to warn parents about a man who has expressed a wish to harm children.

Loyalist Belfast would deny being 'Ireland'. They usually burn out Catholics.

I get the point. I did live near Paulsgrove when paediatrician's house was set fire to by an ignorant mob back in the 70s

I didn't say he was innocent morally, or a nice person. I literally called him abhorrent and appalling, because he is.

He is however innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law.

And again I will point out that the law does not cease to apply to you just because the object of your behaviour is a nonce.

But he wasn't innocent. She had text messages of what he wanted to do to her children and video of him meeting up to arrange to do it.