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Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

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Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 14:11

You can support transgender rights or not but the law isn’t itself politics. Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities in public in the standard use the facilities was built for.

A standard use is:

  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of relieving bodily fluids.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s changing facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of removing clothing for leisure activities.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities to protect the transgender women of being attacked or sexually assaulted.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing the users of the single sex facilities.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing child users in the single sex facilities.

A child user using single sex women’s facilities can’t deny other women public access of the facilities the child user believes are transgender.

With official documentation of the new sex will be difficult to disprove the claim of the transgender women being the male sex.

No harassment or sexual offences can be found against the transgender woman in the standard use of the women’s facilities with official documentation of the new sex.

A woman in the women’s single sex facility can be prosecuted for an offence and or removed if the woman is abusing or harassing the other user of being transgender without proof.

A woman recording and sharing publicly the other user without proof of being transgender can prosecuted.

The Supreme Court ruling or EHRC guidance has not changed the law to prosecute transgender women in women’s single sex spaces.

Transgender women have history of official records to support beyond a reasonable doubt the new gender identity. Have protection of gender discrimination.

Prosecution of transgender women is not going to work in the standard uses of the women’s facilities.

A woman can complain to management but unless management decides to take action to resolve the issue no action can be taken against the other user.

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CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:15

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:12

I just don’t understand what these posts are supposed to achieve.

I think they’re coming up with various reasons why we shouldn’t bother fighting this shit because trans women’s are always going to get a round it which makes no sense because women keep winning in court.

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 20:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:12

I just don’t understand what these posts are supposed to achieve.

If it was AIBU I’d think it’s a reverse 😂

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:14

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 20/06/2026 20:11

I think you're being very patient. 👏

No, just pedantic 😂

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:14

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:03

We signed a document allowing Gray to use the women’s toilets. Gray can use the toilet.

Wow!

You do understand that this is very very wrong don't you?

Your company are behaving appallingly towards their actual women staff.

You should NEVER have been put in a position where you're all signing to say you'll be good women and let the man do whatever the fuck he wants.

Your bosses should have just said NO GARY YOU CAN'T USE THE WOMEN'S TOILETS. You should NEVER have even been part of the discussion.

Naomi would have a field day with this at an employment tribunal. JKR would probably foot the legal bills from her fund.

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 20:13

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:12

At this point I don’t think anything the OP says has actually happened to be honest. That or they have the most incompetent employer ever.

We can’t rule out incompetence just look at NHS Fife and the bumba of incompetence

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:13

Did they do a DPIA @Theotheruser ?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:12

I just don’t understand what these posts are supposed to achieve.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 20/06/2026 20:12

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:25

I’m not accusing transgender people of negative generalisations. I’ve met trans women and they respect women’s rights.

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Except when those rights get in the way of them doing what they want though, right?

They aren't respecting women's rights to female only spaces, opportunities or protections, are they? They aren't even respecting our right to have our own name.

Someone might say they are "respecting women's rights" in the same way they are "women", that is not at all.

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 20:12

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:09

Also, these posts are very incoherent and don’t flow very well, either poor AI or English isn’t the poster’s first language.

Yes. This all seems to be flailing wildly between a whole range of positions and back stories. The current one 'men can if all the women sign to say they don't mind their rights being infringed and support breaking the law' is not going to fly with a court either.

And I'm done, I participated in good faith and you've wasted enough of my time now. You're not the only people on the planet with rights guys, you're going to have to deal with it.

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:12

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:11

It’s not legal. I’ve set out the ukgdpr breaches. The op should report to the ICO.

At this point I don’t think anything the OP says has actually happened to be honest. That or they have the most incompetent employer ever.

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:12

MyAmpleSheep · 20/06/2026 20:11

It’s actually irrelevant. The point about discrimination law is that you can’t opt out of it.

No blacks are allowed in our office; but that’s ok because we all agreed with it.

Can you imagine?

Also this.

Dominoodles · 20/06/2026 20:12

GriseldaandMike · 20/06/2026 20:00

TRAs really should just tell them 'to be kiiiiiind'.

Strange how it does tend to be women who are constantly told to be kind, isn't it?

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 20/06/2026 20:11

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:09

Oh thats another breach. They’ve a legal obligation to have told you. Have they a privacy notice for staff?

I think you're being very patient. 👏

GriseldaandMike · 20/06/2026 20:11

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:08

But ukgdpr says they can’t do that.

I was trying to highlight the stupidity (setting aside the illegality) of the OP saying no one objects when she has admitted herself that it would be a risky thing to do.

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:11

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:09

I’m sure this can’t be legal. How do you know everyone signed of their own free will and weren’t worried about any possible comeback if they didn’t? It’s pretty coercive, as well as most likely not being legal.

It’s not legal. I’ve set out the ukgdpr breaches. The op should report to the ICO.

MyAmpleSheep · 20/06/2026 20:11

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 19:29

I can’t say. The manager told the women in the break room to decide if a transgender woman can use the toilet or not. We know the person for 5 years and non of the women had issues with the person and respected us. We accepted.

It’s actually irrelevant. The point about discrimination law is that you can’t opt out of it.

No blacks are allowed in our office; but that’s ok because we all agreed with it.

Can you imagine?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:10

It wouldn’t come out well in a tribunal.

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:09

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:03

We signed a document allowing Gray to use the women’s toilets. Gray can use the toilet.

I’m sure this can’t be legal. How do you know everyone signed of their own free will and weren’t worried about any possible comeback if they didn’t? It’s pretty coercive, as well as most likely not being legal.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:09

Also, these posts are very incoherent and don’t flow very well, either poor AI or English isn’t the poster’s first language.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 20/06/2026 20:09

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Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:09

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:07

I don’t know

Oh thats another breach. They’ve a legal obligation to have told you. Have they a privacy notice for staff?

MarieDeGournay · 20/06/2026 20:08

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:01

Businesses are trying their best to keep up with the regulatory changes and help the business run.

What 'regulatory changes'?
Men's/women's/accessible has always been the regulatory configuration.
Businesses who always met those requirements don't have to keep up with anything, they're good.

And they just need to make very clear, with signage and company policy, who is entitled to use the men's/women's/accessible, and who is not.

They don't have to do anything silly like 'policing', they just have to make the policy clear, trust their employees to do the right thing, and step in if somebody refuses to respect the policy.

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:08

GriseldaandMike · 20/06/2026 20:06

The OP I have a daughter to support and I need my job to pay the bills and I can’t afford to do that if I start policing the women’s spaces.
Transgender women have won. Prosecuting will not happen and that why I wrote the post. It’s all talk. It will not happen. It takes courage and money and with the cost of living crisis I don’t want to lose my job or house.

Also the OP
The manager told the women in the break room to decide if a transgender woman can use the toilet or not. We know the person for 5 years and non of the women had issues with the person and respected us. We accepted.

So in summary: I'm scared of consequences if I object but it's all OK because no-one objected.

But ukgdpr says they can’t do that.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 20/06/2026 20:08

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GriseldaandMike · 20/06/2026 20:08

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:05

😳

Bun........

Fight

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