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Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

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Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 14:11

You can support transgender rights or not but the law isn’t itself politics. Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities in public in the standard use the facilities was built for.

A standard use is:

  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of relieving bodily fluids.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s changing facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of removing clothing for leisure activities.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities to protect the transgender women of being attacked or sexually assaulted.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing the users of the single sex facilities.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing child users in the single sex facilities.

A child user using single sex women’s facilities can’t deny other women public access of the facilities the child user believes are transgender.

With official documentation of the new sex will be difficult to disprove the claim of the transgender women being the male sex.

No harassment or sexual offences can be found against the transgender woman in the standard use of the women’s facilities with official documentation of the new sex.

A woman in the women’s single sex facility can be prosecuted for an offence and or removed if the woman is abusing or harassing the other user of being transgender without proof.

A woman recording and sharing publicly the other user without proof of being transgender can prosecuted.

The Supreme Court ruling or EHRC guidance has not changed the law to prosecute transgender women in women’s single sex spaces.

Transgender women have history of official records to support beyond a reasonable doubt the new gender identity. Have protection of gender discrimination.

Prosecution of transgender women is not going to work in the standard uses of the women’s facilities.

A woman can complain to management but unless management decides to take action to resolve the issue no action can be taken against the other user.

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TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 21:01

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:49

I remember Gary walking into the women’s toilet when I didn’t have my trousers on. I was washing the trousers under the sink to remove the blood. I did feel uncomfortable and tensed up I was exposed.

It would be nice if Gary could stay in the disabled toilet but Gary is okay.

but I thought Gray didn’t use the ladies? You said earlier

I work with a transgender woman and they use the disabled toilets as the women space is in their words “private and sacred area to do your business”.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:58

MyAmpleSheep · 20/06/2026 20:58

Doubtless the other women are saying the same thing.

Definitely

MyAmpleSheep · 20/06/2026 20:58

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:54

The other women love Gary and is supported. It will not change.

Doubtless the other women are saying the same thing.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:57

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:54

The other women love Gary and is supported. It will not change.

I'm not saying leave tomorrow, but honestly I'd look for a new job. It's a lot to take on the establishment and tribunals are not fun and I totally get why women put up with shit like this, but you might want to start looking at what other jobs are out there. If your employer treats you like this in one area it won't be the only thing they are doing wrong.

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:56

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:54

The other women love Gary and is supported. It will not change.

That still doesn’t make it okay. There’s every chance it will change if a new woman comes in and kicks up a fuss because it’s very much illegal. I wouldn’t be so sure they all love him wither; they might just want to be seen to be kind and cool with it.

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:54

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:51

He’s not okay. He has no right to make you or any other woman uncomfortable in your own single-sex spaces. That is not fine.

The other women love Gary and is supported. It will not change.

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Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:54

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:49

I remember Gary walking into the women’s toilet when I didn’t have my trousers on. I was washing the trousers under the sink to remove the blood. I did feel uncomfortable and tensed up I was exposed.

It would be nice if Gary could stay in the disabled toilet but Gary is okay.

Gary may be OK, I mean he's obviously not as he's transgressing boundaries at work that your employer has enabled, but your employer should NEVER have allowed you to be put in that position.

I don't blame you for wanting to just go to work get paid come home, no rocking of boats, but your employers are currently shafting every woman in your building to please one man. That is not right.

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:51

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:49

I remember Gary walking into the women’s toilet when I didn’t have my trousers on. I was washing the trousers under the sink to remove the blood. I did feel uncomfortable and tensed up I was exposed.

It would be nice if Gary could stay in the disabled toilet but Gary is okay.

He’s not okay. He has no right to make you or any other woman uncomfortable in your own single-sex spaces. That is not fine.

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:50

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:49

Were you aware of this @Theotheruser?

Yeah, now I do.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:49

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:35

And as I’ve said, the second a new woman joins, the illegal policy would make the company potentially guilty of harassment/discrimination against women and she is perfectly entitled to reject the arrangement and the company would be ill advised to insist on it.

Were you aware of this @Theotheruser?

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:49

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:41

Do you actually want Gary in the women's toilets? Or would you actually like him to fuck off?

I remember Gary walking into the women’s toilet when I didn’t have my trousers on. I was washing the trousers under the sink to remove the blood. I did feel uncomfortable and tensed up I was exposed.

It would be nice if Gary could stay in the disabled toilet but Gary is okay.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:46

I think that’s what op means, after they disingenuously misinterpreted what I said. I meant the majority of women in this country, who aren’t happy with men in their spaces.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:44

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:43

True. I might have interpreted the op all wrong.

It will depend on how the OP answers the question I asked her.

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:43

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:43

They may be more trans allies vocal though!

True. I might have interpreted the op all wrong.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:43

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:42

So why aren’t you glad they are?

They may be more trans allies vocal though!

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 20:42

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:38

I’m speaking from my experience. The other women are more vocal than me.

So why aren’t you glad they are?

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:41

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:38

I’m speaking from my experience. The other women are more vocal than me.

Do you actually want Gary in the women's toilets? Or would you actually like him to fuck off?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:40

Again, what is the point of this thread? You are poorly informed and unconvincing. There is no need to prosecute these men, we can put pressure on employers and service providers as is already being done, and any “truce” will necessarily involve them using third spaces, not a hostile violation of women’s boundaries. They’re men. You know they are and so does everyone else, whatever twee little mantras they chant.

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 20:40

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:33

I left school with no GCSEs and was pregnant. When on UC and lived at my parents house until they were evicted by section 21 three years later. I moved in temporarily housing and later got a job and moved in a good area with my daughter who is doing good at school. I am not giving it up.

You don’t have to give that all up because there are women who are fighting this for all women.

However don’t go telling other women not to fight because you don’t want to.

There are ways of quietly supporting that fight back which hopefully will mean your daughter won’t have to put up with this when she’s working age.

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:39

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:38

I’m speaking from my experience. The other women are more vocal than me.

It doesn’t matter what your experience is though. At the end of the day, your employers are acting illegally on several fronts.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 20/06/2026 20:39

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Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:38

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:37

You are free to do whatever you like. It isn’t up to you what other women do.

I’m speaking from my experience. The other women are more vocal than me.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:37

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:33

I left school with no GCSEs and was pregnant. When on UC and lived at my parents house until they were evicted by section 21 three years later. I moved in temporarily housing and later got a job and moved in a good area with my daughter who is doing good at school. I am not giving it up.

You are free to do whatever you like. It isn’t up to you what other women do.

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 20:36

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 20:33

I left school with no GCSEs and was pregnant. When on UC and lived at my parents house until they were evicted by section 21 three years later. I moved in temporarily housing and later got a job and moved in a good area with my daughter who is doing good at school. I am not giving it up.

I don’t ask you to give it up. That doesn’t mean they’re a good employer though.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 20:35

MarieDeGournay · 20/06/2026 20:30

If you're prepared to - or have to - put up with that kind of management, that's up to you and I've expressed my genuine concern for your workers rights, but I'll leave it at that.
Just don't think that it is 'okay', it's not - the law is the law, workplace regs are workplace regs and employers can't pick and choose.

And as I’ve said, the second a new woman joins, the illegal policy would make the company potentially guilty of harassment/discrimination against women and she is perfectly entitled to reject the arrangement and the company would be ill advised to insist on it.

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