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Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

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Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 14:11

You can support transgender rights or not but the law isn’t itself politics. Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities in public in the standard use the facilities was built for.

A standard use is:

  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of relieving bodily fluids.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s changing facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of removing clothing for leisure activities.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities to protect the transgender women of being attacked or sexually assaulted.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing the users of the single sex facilities.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing child users in the single sex facilities.

A child user using single sex women’s facilities can’t deny other women public access of the facilities the child user believes are transgender.

With official documentation of the new sex will be difficult to disprove the claim of the transgender women being the male sex.

No harassment or sexual offences can be found against the transgender woman in the standard use of the women’s facilities with official documentation of the new sex.

A woman in the women’s single sex facility can be prosecuted for an offence and or removed if the woman is abusing or harassing the other user of being transgender without proof.

A woman recording and sharing publicly the other user without proof of being transgender can prosecuted.

The Supreme Court ruling or EHRC guidance has not changed the law to prosecute transgender women in women’s single sex spaces.

Transgender women have history of official records to support beyond a reasonable doubt the new gender identity. Have protection of gender discrimination.

Prosecution of transgender women is not going to work in the standard uses of the women’s facilities.

A woman can complain to management but unless management decides to take action to resolve the issue no action can be taken against the other user.

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Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:31

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:25

Without the heels it looks school uniform.

It's a thing you know...

Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities
Keeptoiletssafe · 20/06/2026 21:31

OP I have to say I haven’t read the whole thread as it’s a bit baffling but you say you are using toilets cubicles and this is a workplace.

The Workplace legislation clearly states that mixed sex toilets should be in their own room. If you have cubicles with door gaps, the Health and Safety Executive say they can only be in a single sex environment.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/3004/regulation/20

A cubicle is not a room.

I have been researching toilet safety for several years and cubicles (with a gap above and below the doors) are the safest design for many reasons of health and safety. BUT cubicles should only lead out into a single sex environment.

This workplace is breaking the above legislation.

The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/3004/regulation/20

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 21:31

On clothes choices dude at one of my clients made a big thing of wearing his dead wife’s clothing, seems one of them (we all knew who) had a penchant for micro skirts and stockings 🤮 not the best look on anyone when approaching retirement

BiologicalRobot · 20/06/2026 21:31

I am getting very confused. The beginning of the thread was about women having to put up with TW trampling all over women's legal rights and that TW have "won" but now we are talking about Gary buggering up the plumbing so he can use the women's loos because all the men are nasty and Gary isn't safe.

MyAmpleSheep · 20/06/2026 21:29

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:26

The manager said a risk assessment was done and yeah it could be better.

This is complete bullshit. You can’t “risk assess” your way out of complying with the 1992 Workplace Regulations, nor complying with the Equality Act 2010. Not even if everyone really really wants to.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:28

Dominoodles · 20/06/2026 21:18

It also goes against the point a lot of TRAs make, that there isn't a problem because women don't speak up. Most women wouldn't speak up in this scenario - they'd be risking their work relationships and potential future career by objecting. There's every chance that most women voting didn't actually want to agree but did out of peer pressure and fear of being branded 'mean'

If I had a mortgage, a kid, bills to pay and only my wage coming in then even with my gob having a mind of its own I'd be tempted to shut up and put up until I could find something else.

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:26

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 21:25

So they didn’t properly risk assess then?

The manager said a risk assessment was done and yeah it could be better.

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Taztoy · 20/06/2026 21:25

So they didn’t properly risk assess then?

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:25

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 21:23

yeah there’s a lot of weird

Without the heels it looks school uniform.

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Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:24

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:19

We can’t call Tiffany Gary and must use pronouns she/her/they. Gary wears daily a skirt and tights and blouse blazer. Skirt does show a bit of a bump. Too tight for Gary. Heels are awful. I wear comfort shoes and stretchy trousers with a nice blouse or jumper. Transgender women have weird clothing preferences.

But you are free to call a Gary a Gary here! 😁

Autogynephilia may explain his clothing choices (and the bump)

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 21:23

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:19

We can’t call Tiffany Gary and must use pronouns she/her/they. Gary wears daily a skirt and tights and blouse blazer. Skirt does show a bit of a bump. Too tight for Gary. Heels are awful. I wear comfort shoes and stretchy trousers with a nice blouse or jumper. Transgender women have weird clothing preferences.

yeah there’s a lot of weird

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:19

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:12

It's all so much clearer how the women are being shat on from a great height when everyone accepts Gary is Gary despite calling himself Tiffany isn't it!

We can’t call Tiffany Gary and must use pronouns she/her/they. Gary wears daily a skirt and tights and blouse blazer. Skirt does show a bit of a bump. Too tight for Gary. Heels are awful. I wear comfort shoes and stretchy trousers with a nice blouse or jumper. Transgender women have weird clothing preferences.

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Dominoodles · 20/06/2026 21:18

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:12

It's all so much clearer how the women are being shat on from a great height when everyone accepts Gary is Gary despite calling himself Tiffany isn't it!

It also goes against the point a lot of TRAs make, that there isn't a problem because women don't speak up. Most women wouldn't speak up in this scenario - they'd be risking their work relationships and potential future career by objecting. There's every chance that most women voting didn't actually want to agree but did out of peer pressure and fear of being branded 'mean'

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 21:18

So the whole risk assessment story is bollocks isn’t it because there were no disabled staff and he was already using that toilet. A company wouldn’t do a risk assessment because a toilet was broken, they’d call a plumber

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:16

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:09

We have no disabled staff. Before Gary transitioned it was used as storage.

Does that mean Gary was actually still Gary and not Tiffany when he started working there? He's transitioned whilst in that workplace?

If so then the whole "oh no the poor waif can't use the horrible men's toilets because of all the scary men" even more ridiculous.

If he was peeing next to them before then he can do it now.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:12

It's all so much clearer how the women are being shat on from a great height when everyone accepts Gary is Gary despite calling himself Tiffany isn't it!

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:10

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:06

Gary can use the women’s toilet if the disabled toilet is out of order. Gary went in the women’s toilet last week. The disabled toilet has a plumbing issue.

I'd bet good money on Gary breaking the disabled toilet in order to use the woman's!

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:09

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 21:07

So what were any disabled staff supposed to do?

We have no disabled staff. Before Gary transitioned it was used as storage.

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Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:09

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:02

I sent in my CV to jobs in the local area and I did get an interview and offered a job but the hours wasn’t good for me being a single parent.

Unlike one man's wants overiding 10 women's needs, job hunting is a numbers game.

Take the positives, you are employable elsewhere, which is always good to know! You just have to keep applying for anything and everything that fits your skill set. If one employer wanted to employ you others will as well. At some point the hours and pay will also line up with what you're looking for. Speak to recruiters who'll do the finding the jobs for you.

Gary is a total arse by the way.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 20/06/2026 21:08

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:55

Workplace policy of my employer. All of us women accepted the transgender employee must have a toilet and can use the women’s toilet if the disabled toilet is out of order.

You can’t give that permission.

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 21:07

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:06

Gary can use the women’s toilet if the disabled toilet is out of order. Gary went in the women’s toilet last week. The disabled toilet has a plumbing issue.

So what were any disabled staff supposed to do?

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 21:06

But you said earlier he didn’t use the ladies? I’m so confused. Mind you im easily confused.

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:06

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:02

I presume Gary used the women's before those dratted FWS women took the Scottish government to the supreme court and ruined all of Gary's fantasies plans.

Gary can use the women’s toilet if the disabled toilet is out of order. Gary went in the women’s toilet last week. The disabled toilet has a plumbing issue.

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Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:02

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:57

I'm not saying leave tomorrow, but honestly I'd look for a new job. It's a lot to take on the establishment and tribunals are not fun and I totally get why women put up with shit like this, but you might want to start looking at what other jobs are out there. If your employer treats you like this in one area it won't be the only thing they are doing wrong.

I sent in my CV to jobs in the local area and I did get an interview and offered a job but the hours wasn’t good for me being a single parent.

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Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 21:02

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 21:01

but I thought Gray didn’t use the ladies? You said earlier

I work with a transgender woman and they use the disabled toilets as the women space is in their words “private and sacred area to do your business”.

I presume Gary used the women's before those dratted FWS women took the Scottish government to the supreme court and ruined all of Gary's fantasies plans.

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