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Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

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Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 14:11

You can support transgender rights or not but the law isn’t itself politics. Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities in public in the standard use the facilities was built for.

A standard use is:

  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of relieving bodily fluids.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s changing facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of removing clothing for leisure activities.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities to protect the transgender women of being attacked or sexually assaulted.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing the users of the single sex facilities.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing child users in the single sex facilities.

A child user using single sex women’s facilities can’t deny other women public access of the facilities the child user believes are transgender.

With official documentation of the new sex will be difficult to disprove the claim of the transgender women being the male sex.

No harassment or sexual offences can be found against the transgender woman in the standard use of the women’s facilities with official documentation of the new sex.

A woman in the women’s single sex facility can be prosecuted for an offence and or removed if the woman is abusing or harassing the other user of being transgender without proof.

A woman recording and sharing publicly the other user without proof of being transgender can prosecuted.

The Supreme Court ruling or EHRC guidance has not changed the law to prosecute transgender women in women’s single sex spaces.

Transgender women have history of official records to support beyond a reasonable doubt the new gender identity. Have protection of gender discrimination.

Prosecution of transgender women is not going to work in the standard uses of the women’s facilities.

A woman can complain to management but unless management decides to take action to resolve the issue no action can be taken against the other user.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 22:34

Gray, Gary, what’s a stray r between friends?

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:34

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:23

You could even be the narrator! I imagine the story beginning with you describing Gary's varied methods of blocking the toilet, and your complete confusion over it... A beetle point of view to tell a tale of queer human love: forget publishing it as just an original work on AO3: I think I've got an award-winning book on my hands here!

Well, I've seen Blood Brothers so many times I know the script backwards and I love the narrator role in that.

So did you hear the story of the toilet two
Aligned together by Gary's poo.
Of one u bend broke on the very day
That one came out as trans and the other gay.
And did you never hear of the toilet two
Never knowing that they shared one fate
Until the day the u bend broke
And a woman cried "thats really a bloke"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 22:33

“Gray” sounds like the anti hero of a 90s bodice ripper set in Savannah, Georgia

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 22:31

Might need to rename our male lead as there’s just so few Gary’s these days, I prefer Gray

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 22:25

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:23

You could even be the narrator! I imagine the story beginning with you describing Gary's varied methods of blocking the toilet, and your complete confusion over it... A beetle point of view to tell a tale of queer human love: forget publishing it as just an original work on AO3: I think I've got an award-winning book on my hands here!

I’d read it.

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:24

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 22:18

Gary is 35 years old and 78kg. Pete is 25 years old has been in army and now a plumber.

A small age gap, with the younger one as the tougher one, that's some good stuff right there!

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:23

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:17

I could be the unfortunate witness to how exactly Gary blocked the toilet I suppose

You could even be the narrator! I imagine the story beginning with you describing Gary's varied methods of blocking the toilet, and your complete confusion over it... A beetle point of view to tell a tale of queer human love: forget publishing it as just an original work on AO3: I think I've got an award-winning book on my hands here!

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 22:18

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:06

I'm a fanfic writer. I think the story of Pete the macho plumber, and Gary the soft trans woman who is afraid to use the men's, who meet over Gary's repeated sabotage of the disabled's toilets, could find its public!

Gary is 35 years old and 78kg. Pete is 25 years old has been in army and now a plumber.

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murasaki · 20/06/2026 22:18

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Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:17

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:16

Oooh, nice touch! takes notes Do you want to play a specific role in the plot?

I could be the unfortunate witness to how exactly Gary blocked the toilet I suppose

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:16

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 22:15

Thanks. I’m over the worst now but I might milk it a bit longer to get a long lie in while DH takes the dogs out tomorrow!

He has no need to know its easing off.

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:16

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:11

Can I ask that you include a beetle infestation in the disabled toilets at which point everyone discovers I don't actually live in deepest darkest Peru but in Hayes Travel's toilets in Rotherhithe

Oooh, nice touch! takes notes Do you want to play a specific role in the plot?

murasaki · 20/06/2026 22:15

The brightest and best are really stretching the definition of those words this weekend, aren't they.

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 22:15

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:13

Ouch.

Sending virtual painkillers your way

💊💊💊💊

Thanks. I’m over the worst now but I might milk it a bit longer to get a long lie in while DH takes the dogs out tomorrow!

murasaki · 20/06/2026 22:14

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:55

Do you believe transgender reddit would be happy to see me by posting about Gray?

They'd certainly be happy if you coaxed some into into saying transgender people have no rights. As that what's they believe we think and they want receipts, despite it not being true at all.

But you already know that.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 20/06/2026 22:13

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 22:07

I hope MN don’t delete this thread though it’s been quite entertaining.

Lovely and helpful as you all are I really need to find something more exciting to do on a Saturday evening

Never mind, I've saved all the best bits from this afternoon when our poster-of-many-sides was spouting off invective about the uselessness of women insisting on our rights. I imagine he/they hadn't got our measure yet, and tried to change tack later on.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:13

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 22:09

It’s gotten me through a nasty gallbladder attack. So I can only thank OP for that.

Ouch.

Sending virtual painkillers your way

💊💊💊💊

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:11

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:06

I'm a fanfic writer. I think the story of Pete the macho plumber, and Gary the soft trans woman who is afraid to use the men's, who meet over Gary's repeated sabotage of the disabled's toilets, could find its public!

Can I ask that you include a beetle infestation in the disabled toilets at which point everyone discovers I don't actually live in deepest darkest Peru but in Hayes Travel's toilets in Rotherhithe

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 22:09

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 22:07

I hope MN don’t delete this thread though it’s been quite entertaining.

Lovely and helpful as you all are I really need to find something more exciting to do on a Saturday evening

It’s gotten me through a nasty gallbladder attack. So I can only thank OP for that.

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 22:09

CassOle · 20/06/2026 22:01

Just so you know @Theotheruser 'Pete the plumber' was used as a hypothetical example during employment tribunals.

Let you know. In my local area more women are getting into the trades. They do a better at jobs and are cheaper and more honest and reliable.

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TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · 20/06/2026 22:07

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I hope MN don’t delete this thread though it’s been quite entertaining.

Lovely and helpful as you all are I really need to find something more exciting to do on a Saturday evening

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:06

I'm a fanfic writer. I think the story of Pete the macho plumber, and Gary the soft trans woman who is afraid to use the men's, who meet over Gary's repeated sabotage of the disabled's toilets, could find its public!

Grammarnut · 20/06/2026 22:06

That's a Lear.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:06

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 21:56

What about Dave?

Dave just wants to know who keeps nicking the full industrial sizes toilet rolls from the bogs.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:03

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 21:47

I read your posts and yeah I got it wrong in the beginning. You get used to the idea trans women have rights and get on with your job.

Oh he has rights. Just not the ones he wants or the ones your employer is attempting to foist on the women whilst hoping none of the women take them to tribunal for discrimination. They are so worried about discriminating against Gary that they are discriminating against ALL the women.