Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

I’m genuinely mystified what you want to achieve in posting this thread

It has happened. Multiple times. And no one can call the SCJ or yesterday's court judgment an 'echo chamber'.

It's not a case of anyone having 'won', it's a case of the needs of men with gender identities having their own resources and their own spaces provided, and being required to respect for the first time that women have rights equal to theirs, and while their needs must and absolutely should be met, they cannot remove needed resources and access from women.

If you're this deep in despair about it all then women here will encourage you any time, write to your MP, Sex Matters and FWS will always be there for you, and so will the remarkable women who do have the courage and time and funding to take these things through a court. As many have now done, which resulted in the SCJ and cases like yesterday's.

This is the natural reaction to the law having been clarified in ways that this group of men do not like. But all this is about is having to respect the equality and parity of women's rights; it will all settle down. These men will not be left without care, support and resources.

Unlike the women who are unable to use mixed sex spaces and were left with nothing at all, a number injured, and very few people caring, certainly not transactivists. These men have much, more than they ever let women have.

It is easier to not notice a transgender woman in the women’s space and go on with your life.

Being able to not notice would be nice, I assume you don’t work in an environment with many as they make it really fucking impossible not to notice them.

Why is it only the disabled toilets these people are going to clog and leave dirty?

You aren't in a position to campaign actively for women's human rights? Fair enough. Neither am I.

But don't be so defeatist! Courage calls to courage!
There are lots of other women, and men, who are not prepared to shrug and say 'there's nothing we can do, less than 2% of the population have bullied us all so thoroughly that they can trash our rights, and we just have to accept that women don't matter'.

Outside of a trans-ally bubble, most people are too sensible to believe that people can change sex. This irrational unscientific undemocratic fad will pass.

That’s a very weirdly blanket statement. They don’t really need to police spaces as such but if a persistent man insists on using the women’s space they may be at risk of legal action for but providing single spaces.

I’m not sure what you are hoping to achieve with your strangely goady posts. I guess you’ll just have to carry on snd see what happens.

I think you are possibly underestimating how many steely women of independent means there are. Now I know the law is on my side I'll be challenging every penis-bearing person that I spot in women's spaces and politely questioning the maybes.

They haven't won. I don't have a job, I own my house outright, if they thump me it will make great publicity when I post the video.

You mean female people who identify as men? No, they won't usually stop those people going into female-only spaces.

Yes, I phrased that poorly. Wasn’t implying they should use disabled spaces.

Fourth, please.

unless they’re disabled they can’t take our spaces either.

Luckily other people do have courage and money, and they won’t stop challenging these men.

Transgender individuals can stay out of whatever closet they choose. What they can’t do is go into a single sex space other than that which they were born. Hth.

The “truce” would have to involve them agreeing to use third spaces, mate. Otherwise, no deal.

🤣 nice one.

Transgender people using women's spaces will be challenged unless they are so good at masquerading as a woman that they genuinely can't be spotted. Women are particularly good at this, the number will be very small.

We have not felt the law was with us to challenge them before. We do now.

As a woman who regularly sees women double checking my short hair, height and broad shoulders, I welcome with open arms their right to reassure themselves that I'm female.

Speak for yourself. I’ve nothing left to lose and a spine forged in the fires of hell.

You forgot to add
Transgender women are not, and never will be, female.
or to put it a different way
Transgender women have always been, and always will be, male.

You’re not very convincing @Theotheruser- what exactly do you imagine you’re achieving here?

We are going to prosecute them because the law will be changed precisely because men won’t stop transgressing female spaces.

opinion polls are dead against trans rights above female rights.

No it won’t you numpty. However, allowing some males into female spaces, but not all males, IS sex discrimination.

“Transgender women on medication will be threatened with violence going in the men’s spaces.”

Why is this a justification for diminishing the safety and comfort of girls and women?

All this concern for TW being around other men but absolutely no compassion for the females you’re expecting to just happily accept the same.

The cognitive dissonance and misogynistic double standard is still shocking to me every single time this argument is trotted out. 🙄