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Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

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Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 14:11

You can support transgender rights or not but the law isn’t itself politics. Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities in public in the standard use the facilities was built for.

A standard use is:

  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of relieving bodily fluids.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s changing facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of removing clothing for leisure activities.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities to protect the transgender women of being attacked or sexually assaulted.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing the users of the single sex facilities.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing child users in the single sex facilities.

A child user using single sex women’s facilities can’t deny other women public access of the facilities the child user believes are transgender.

With official documentation of the new sex will be difficult to disprove the claim of the transgender women being the male sex.

No harassment or sexual offences can be found against the transgender woman in the standard use of the women’s facilities with official documentation of the new sex.

A woman in the women’s single sex facility can be prosecuted for an offence and or removed if the woman is abusing or harassing the other user of being transgender without proof.

A woman recording and sharing publicly the other user without proof of being transgender can prosecuted.

The Supreme Court ruling or EHRC guidance has not changed the law to prosecute transgender women in women’s single sex spaces.

Transgender women have history of official records to support beyond a reasonable doubt the new gender identity. Have protection of gender discrimination.

Prosecution of transgender women is not going to work in the standard uses of the women’s facilities.

A woman can complain to management but unless management decides to take action to resolve the issue no action can be taken against the other user.

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Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 19:02

CityonFire · 20/06/2026 18:56

Except they literally can’t use women’s toilets because it’s not lawful to do so and any professional assessing risk would know that.

It’s lawful to allow transgender women to use the women’s toilets if there is no other provision is available. If the disabled toilets being out of order. The transgender women must able to access toilets. Men’s are no go.

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CityonFire · 20/06/2026 18:56

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:46

A risk assessment was carried out and the men’s is not 💯 safe for transgender women of risk of harm.

For insurance purposes, disabled or women’s toilets are the toilets the transgender women can use. If the disabled toilet is out of order the transgender women can use the women’s toilets. The workplace must provide facilities.

Except they literally can’t use women’s toilets because it’s not lawful to do so and any professional assessing risk would know that.

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:55

Soontobe60 · 20/06/2026 18:50

Where are you getting this rubbish from?

Workplace policy of my employer. All of us women accepted the transgender employee must have a toilet and can use the women’s toilet if the disabled toilet is out of order.

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murasaki · 20/06/2026 18:53

I thought they spent ages saying being trans wasn't a disability, and now it is?

Transwomen are men, amd if they don't trust men, that's a them problem. Not a women or people with disabilities problem. How about they ask the men to behave (disclaimer, I think they be perfectly safe in the men's, bar the possibility of some mocking).

Soontobe60 · 20/06/2026 18:50

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:46

A risk assessment was carried out and the men’s is not 💯 safe for transgender women of risk of harm.

For insurance purposes, disabled or women’s toilets are the toilets the transgender women can use. If the disabled toilet is out of order the transgender women can use the women’s toilets. The workplace must provide facilities.

Where are you getting this rubbish from?

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 18:47

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:39

Transgender people have gender reassignment and discrimination rights and human rights to dignity and respect in the workplace.

Women have rights too

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:46

murasaki · 20/06/2026 18:42

And the law says they need to use single sex spaces for their biological sex.

A risk assessment was carried out and the men’s is not 💯 safe for transgender women of risk of harm.

For insurance purposes, disabled or women’s toilets are the toilets the transgender women can use. If the disabled toilet is out of order the transgender women can use the women’s toilets. The workplace must provide facilities.

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OneDarkDeer · 20/06/2026 18:45

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 18:37

Why are they using ANY space they’re not entitled to?

If there are adequate third spaces I don’t think there is a problem

Keeptoiletssafe · 20/06/2026 18:42

The disabled is now called the accessible. If you think it’s being left a mess maybe put a sign up asking that ambulant users can help keep it clean and keep the pull cord in place (not tied up).

murasaki · 20/06/2026 18:42

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:39

Transgender people have gender reassignment and discrimination rights and human rights to dignity and respect in the workplace.

And the law says they need to use single sex spaces for their biological sex.

ElenOfTheWays · 20/06/2026 18:42

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 17:58

We need to be honest. I have a daughter to support and I need my job to pay the bills and I can’t afford to do that if I start policing the women’s spaces.

Transgender women have won. Prosecuting will not happen and that why I wrote the post. It’s all talk. It will not happen. It takes courage and money and with the cost of living crisis I don’t want to lose my job or house.

YOU may not fight back. Other women have and will.
Don't be so bloody defeatist.

Would you fight for your daughter if she was faced with a fetishistic male in her private space?

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:39

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 18:37

Why are they using ANY space they’re not entitled to?

Transgender people have gender reassignment and discrimination rights and human rights to dignity and respect in the workplace.

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Taztoy · 20/06/2026 18:37

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:33

I work with a transgender woman and they use the disabled toilets as the women space is in their words “private and sacred area to do your business”.

Why are they using ANY space they’re not entitled to?

Keeptoiletssafe · 20/06/2026 18:34

This is a weird thread.

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 18:33

If you are a service provider OP and you're worried about what you would do, or feeling that it is 'easier' just to ignore the law to save dealing with a man kicking off, I have sympathy and you might benefit from starting a thread asking specifically for advice, there's legal people around here.

But sadly ignoring the law won't be consequence free, as you might save yourself a difficult conversation in the short term, but will be at risk all the time of a woman user who will take legal action because of your service being discriminatory. And knowing the law, you won't have much of a leg to stand on.

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:33

Taztoy · 20/06/2026 18:30

Not if they’re transgressing into women’s single sex spaces they don’t.

I work with a transgender woman and they use the disabled toilets as the women space is in their words “private and sacred area to do your business”.

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Taztoy · 20/06/2026 18:30

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:25

I’m not accusing transgender people of negative generalisations. I’ve met trans women and they respect women’s rights.

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Not if they’re transgressing into women’s single sex spaces they don’t.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 18:30

But on the other hand apparently all “trans women” respect women’s rights? Who have they “won” over exactly then, if that’s the case? 🤔

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 18:28

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:25

I’m not accusing transgender people of negative generalisations. I’ve met trans women and they respect women’s rights.

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Well actually yes, your post about 'transgender women have won' could be taken to imply exactly that; that you mean all men with gender identities will ignore the law and women's equality. As you say, that won't be the case.

murasaki · 20/06/2026 18:27

MarieDeGournay · 20/06/2026 18:21

You way you describe transwomen, they come across very badly:
Not only do they not respect the law, they clearly don't respect women, and now you say they also don't respect disabled people?
If what you say is true, that's despicable!

Also they're incapable of leaving a toilet clean. Great bunch of lads.

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:25

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 18:23

Really.

Important to note to those worried (edited to add I didn't mean you Marie, just your post mentioned several previous posts): the posting guidelines aren't keen on negative generalisations, probably better to be clear you're not talking about an entire population refusing to respect women's or disabled spaces, or you might risk deletion.

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I’m not accusing transgender people of negative generalisations. I’ve met trans women and they respect women’s rights.

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MarieDeGournay · 20/06/2026 18:25

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 18:23

Really.

Important to note to those worried (edited to add I didn't mean you Marie, just your post mentioned several previous posts): the posting guidelines aren't keen on negative generalisations, probably better to be clear you're not talking about an entire population refusing to respect women's or disabled spaces, or you might risk deletion.

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By 'you' you mean Theotheruser, I assume?
edited to add that I just saw your 'edited to add'Smile
I was just drawing conclusions...

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 20/06/2026 18:25

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 17:58

We need to be honest. I have a daughter to support and I need my job to pay the bills and I can’t afford to do that if I start policing the women’s spaces.

Transgender women have won. Prosecuting will not happen and that why I wrote the post. It’s all talk. It will not happen. It takes courage and money and with the cost of living crisis I don’t want to lose my job or house.

This makes even less sense. It sounds like you run some sort of business.

Im not sure how putting up a sign debuting female only or male only for your relevant spaces will harm your income. I guess if you decided to turn a blind eye to men using your women’s facility and that became known locally, then it may harm your income.

You are obviously at liberty to make that decision but it would be a choice you make, prioritise men using women’s spaces and potentially lose women customers or tell men to use the men’s spaces and keep the women happy. I certainly wouldn’t spend my money with a business that didn’t respect my basic rights.

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 18:23

MarieDeGournay · 20/06/2026 18:21

You way you describe transwomen, they come across very badly:
Not only do they not respect the law, they clearly don't respect women, and now you say they also don't respect disabled people?
If what you say is true, that's despicable!

Really.

Important to note to those worried (edited to add I didn't mean you Marie, just your post mentioned several previous posts): the posting guidelines aren't keen on negative generalisations, probably better to be clear you're not talking about an entire population refusing to respect women's or disabled spaces, or you might risk deletion.

MarieDeGournay · 20/06/2026 18:21

Theotheruser · 20/06/2026 18:15

It will be the disabled toilets business will use as third and fourth spaces. The toilet will be clogged or dirty so it will be bad for disabled people. :(

You way you describe transwomen, they come across very badly:
Not only do they not respect the law, they clearly don't respect women, and now you say they also don't respect disabled people?
If what you say is true, that's despicable!

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