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Rowling Makes a Stand

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JadeLeader · 20/06/2026 01:06

Ok, so I know the educated classes hate us and our Dear Leader, but she's really not doing herself any favours here...

Rowling Makes a Stand
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Imdunfer · 20/06/2026 10:48

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 09:53

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"From the Nazis believing they were the victims of degeneracy and social contagion to their obsession with biological supremacy."

Ring any bells?

But we don't have an obsession with biological supremacy.

The complaints of woman are that men are physically stronger and psychologically more assertive (and therefore win more often) than women.

And of course you're way, way better than us at violence.

Shortshriftandlethal · 20/06/2026 10:47

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 10:17

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

Suuuure they do…..

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

Nobody denies that there are some people who, for whatever reason, have adopted a 'trans' identity. In the same way people know that some people are motorbike entusiasts, or are really into cos-play and superheroes in such a way, and to such an extent, that they arrange their lives around these specific passions or hobbies. People believe, like and identify with all sorts of things. nobody denies that.

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 10:41

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 10:37

Knock yourself out with all the sea lioning derailment again.

Get back to me when you’ve got something substantive to say.

Okay, then here goes:

The Nazis abused and experimented on queer people. Gender doctors abuse and experiment on queer kids. Thus, gender doctors are acting like Nazis. (Not saying they are Nazis, because that would be both ridiculous and libel. Just that they act like them in this one, particular matter.)

Shortshriftandlethal · 20/06/2026 10:40

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 09:56

Uh huh, just like a lot of conservative supporters of critical gender ideology.

https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/

Edited

I'd say most people have a distaste for lives that are arranged entirely around sexual fetishes and other compulsive sexual behaviours.

IrnBruAndDietCoke · 20/06/2026 10:39

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 10:23

Can't. I'm not a vegetarian!

That’s ok, Emily brought enough word salad for everyone.

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 10:37

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 10:26

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Since when are trans people "all queer people"?

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

Well then you should not have any problem pointing me to the right post?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

What does that even mean? You posted links, and then quoted from them. So presumably, you can present evidence for the bits you quoted, either from those same links, or from other sources. So please present them.

Knock yourself out with all the sea lioning derailment again.

Get back to me when you’ve got something substantive to say.

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 10:26

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 10:17

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

Suuuure they do…..

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Since when are trans people "all queer people"?

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

Well then you should not have any problem pointing me to the right post?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

What does that even mean? You posted links, and then quoted from them. So presumably, you can present evidence for the bits you quoted, either from those same links, or from other sources. So please present them.

tartyflette · 20/06/2026 10:25

JadeLeader · 20/06/2026 02:00

Is it though? Intellectually lazy? With the Overton Window currently sitting far to the right and the echoes of the exact same psycho-social patterns of the 1930s running strongly through many European countries; England especially?

What parallel would you suggest society reaches for the quantify and personify the current attitudes and trends?

Christ, enough with the word salad already.
(And the very dodgy grammar.)

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 10:23

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/06/2026 10:16

I see @Seethlaw is failing to trans properly again - tut tut Seeth

Emily will decide you are literally Hitler you know

Can't. I'm not a vegetarian!

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 10:22

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/06/2026 10:14

So... What's your point, exactly????

miss! Miss! I know!! Is it that ppl who understand biology is real and popping on a dress doesn't make you a woman and also that it's WPATH who are the bad guys here are big smelly poo heads?

How dare you misgender me!? It's Sir on Mondays and Thursdays, Ms on Tuesdays and Fridays, and Mx on Wednesdays. Do better.

😉😂

EdithStourton · 20/06/2026 10:21

Shortshriftandlethal · 20/06/2026 09:55

Biological reality ( and an understanding there are two sexes) and a belief in biological 'supremacy' are not the same thing - evn if both phrases contain the word 'biological'.

What I was going to say.
Rational thinking is in short supply in some quarters.

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 10:17

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 10:11

Problem with this 'analysis' is the Nazis thought all queer people were degenerates.

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

And just like Magadalen Berns & Helen Joyce they believed it was a Jewish conspiracy to 'poison' biological 'purity' with it.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

They don't believe trans people 'exist' 'cause biology' only proves they do.

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

I never made the claims you asked for. Still misreading comments?

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

Suuuure they do…..

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/06/2026 10:16

I see @Seethlaw is failing to trans properly again - tut tut Seeth

Emily will decide you are literally Hitler you know

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/06/2026 10:14

So... What's your point, exactly????

miss! Miss! I know!! Is it that ppl who understand biology is real and popping on a dress doesn't make you a woman and also that it's WPATH who are the bad guys here are big smelly poo heads?

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 10:11

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 10:05

Problem with this 'analysis' is the Nazis thought all queer people were degenerates. And just like Magadalen Berns & Helen Joyce they believed it was a Jewish conspiracy to 'poison' biological 'purity' with it.

Second, GC people don't think they are biologically superior to anyone else.

They don't believe trans people 'exist' 'cause biology' only proves they do.

Third, don't think I haven't noticed that you have provided exactly ZERO of the examples I asked for.

I never made the claims you asked for. Still misreading comments?

Problem with this 'analysis' is the Nazis thought all queer people were degenerates.

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

And just like Magadalen Berns & Helen Joyce they believed it was a Jewish conspiracy to 'poison' biological 'purity' with it.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

They don't believe trans people 'exist' 'cause biology' only proves they do.

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

I never made the claims you asked for. Still misreading comments?

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 20/06/2026 10:08

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Great post.
Though I really want a waffle now.

NotBadConsidering · 20/06/2026 10:05

It’s brilliant isn’t it? 😂

It’s like when a kid wets their pants then starts ranting about how they don’t want peas for tea as a distraction from the stain.

SadTimesInFife · 20/06/2026 10:05

...meanwhile....I will just say that JK is an absolute treasure! 🥰

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 10:05

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 09:58

First, did you know that Hitler was a vegetarian? So obviously being a vegetarian is being a Nazi. In other words: degeneracy and social contagion are things that exist outside of the Nazi realm. For example, loads of pedophiles (degenerates) are not Nazis, and I imagine that most teenage victims of various social contagions are not Nazis either.

Second, GC people don't think they are biologically superior to anyone else.

Third, don't think I haven't noticed that you have provided exactly ZERO of the examples I asked for.

Problem with this 'analysis' is the Nazis thought all queer people were degenerates. And just like Magadalen Berns & Helen Joyce they believed it was a Jewish conspiracy to 'poison' biological 'purity' with it.

Second, GC people don't think they are biologically superior to anyone else.

They don't believe trans people 'exist' 'cause biology' only proves they do.

Third, don't think I haven't noticed that you have provided exactly ZERO of the examples I asked for.

I never made the claims you asked for. Still misreading comments?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/06/2026 10:02

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FKAT · 20/06/2026 10:02

This is why I hate argument by analogy. The TRAs are the worst of it, ransacking every single civil rights movement to try and posit that AGP men are like black people under Jim Crow or gay men under section 28, or Jews under the Nazis or women pre-suffrage. Use the facts in hand to make your point otherwise you don't have one.

Even dumber is taking an analogy - and then treating it as literal. Here Stalingrad is clearly a metaphor but then TRAs with take it upons themselves to submit a 'compare and contrast' essay, like they are Year 10 GCSE students.

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 09:58

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 09:53

Similarities:

"From the Nazis believing they were the victims of degeneracy and social contagion to their obsession with biological supremacy."

Ring any bells?

First, did you know that Hitler was a vegetarian? So obviously being a vegetarian is being a Nazi. In other words: degeneracy and social contagion are things that exist outside of the Nazi realm. For example, loads of pedophiles (degenerates) are not Nazis, and I imagine that most teenage victims of various social contagions are not Nazis either.

Second, GC people don't think they are biologically superior to anyone else.

Third, don't think I haven't noticed that you have provided exactly ZERO of the examples I asked for.

borntobequiet · 20/06/2026 09:58

JadeLeader · 20/06/2026 01:06

Ok, so I know the educated classes hate us and our Dear Leader, but she's really not doing herself any favours here...

Ha ha.
Not really up to speed on your WW2 history, are you?

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 09:57

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 09:53

Similarities:

"From the Nazis believing they were the victims of degeneracy and social contagion to their obsession with biological supremacy."

Ring any bells?

That this is bonkers, yes.

Biological 'supremacy'? Its not the women resisting their rights lost in law and medical experimentation on children who are into effectively damaging and sterilising kids who are troubled and confused and most likely gay with a high number also being autistic. Eugenics is a valid concern there!

ffs.