Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete

And I still haven't had a response to my comment that ethnic identity is waaaaaay more than melanin (re Rachel Dolezal).

Strange, that.

And this is where the parallel drawn elsewhere on this thread between transgender ideology and Christianity falls flat on its face.

Some MN posters love to jump in with the term 'sky fairy' when there's a discussion about religion (particularly Christianity), or they talk about indoctrinating children when there is a discussion about church schools, or they blame Christianity for all sorts of stuff. You don't see the Christians on MN calling it 'hate speech... ignorant Christianophobia'.

Trans kids find getting beaten up & sexually assaulted pretty tedious too. Shame about the adults who enable that.

@TransParentlyAnnoyed is, I believe, talking about her DD who identifies as a boy but has been sexually harassed or assaulted by boys in her school. Perhaps in spaces reserved for boys. This is abhorrent and our hearts should go out to that poor poor girl.

Where Transparent is mistaken is when she says shame about the adults, she means the women here (and some men). Instead of blaming those who are doing their darnest to protect young children and teens, one day, she may realise the adults who have ‘enabled’ that to happen are the many professionals who have embraced the gender ideology without a second thought about the negative implications for our children.

It is unfortunate that TPA has come to also believe in this horrific ideology claiming children can be born in the wrong body (what a terrible message), but surely there’s some leeway in understanding that educators, doctors, police, prisons, companies, social workers, politicians have all jumped on the trans bandwagon and perpetuate this message ad nauseum. So it’s no surprise that some parents do. It is a nightmare.

I'm sorry. But no one has done this.

Perhaps you would like to retract that lie.

But when a boy thinks he is a girl, that does make it true?

And I’m not a regal feline dinosaur. Outrageous.

You would destroy women and girls' legal, social and political rights and deligitimise the female voice - the rights and voice half of humanity - because of sonething that might "possibly" be true, and which even if it is true only changes how someone perceives their sex, not what their sex actually is?

Not good enough. Not good enough at all.

You'll be trying to tell me I'm not actually a beetle next.

Oi oi. 'Designed' sounds dangerously creationist.

For the record I checked whether anacondas do actually eat gerbils. Apparently they’re not a natural part of their diet because they’re quite small for large anacondas to hunt for, but given the opportunity they will eat gerbils. And apparently young anacondas in captivity are fed gerbils among other small rodents

So the gerbils are absolutely within their rights to ask for gerbil-identifying anacondas to be kept out of their single-gerbil spaces.

Can’t think of a human analogy though.🤔

Nope. Still not coming to mind. 😂

Maybe... is it Peter Pan or Stefonknee 'not growing up'?

Because they never have to grow up?

You can pretend your drill bits are tiny unicorn horns.

Tyrannosaur or Sauropod? You may need to stock up on raw meat.

Sorry, just read the full thread. I presume you mean the poster TransParentlyAnnoyed..

Well thank you for that mental picture.

You are at the start of a journey many of us have taken.

At the start, you think there must surely be a reasonable compromise whereby society can most of the time make believe trans people are actually the opposite sex, with limitations that everyone agrees are reasonable because of course they and everyone else realise aren't really the opposite sex.

And you assume that trans people who you have been told can't help how they were born and suffer so deeply from lack of recognition will understand that this is a concession and courtesy extended to them out of care and support, and appreciate this.

But as you learn more, you realise that far from being grateful, this suggestion incenses the political trans activists who are driving the agenda in politics and organisations. You are told that anything other than complete capitulation, TWAW and TMAM in all ways and all contexts, is dispicable hate. You are told that to suggest sex is also significant is the same as celebrating children's suicide and calling for genocide.

And you realise that this anger is very very similar to the anger some in society have always directed at "uppity" women, and that for some TRAs it has become less about supporting trans people and more about beating the boogeyman TERFs.

And you start to question what this "feels like a woman" actually means, and what it implies about how those people assume you as a woman must feel or think or live.

And eventually, you come to realise the whole thing is just sexist stereotypes, and actually there is no place where some men are legitimately more like women than other men because of their minds that is not less open minded amd less sexist and less reductive of women than simply recognising that man/boy are words for the male half of humanity and women/girl for the female, and everything else is just personality that can and should be absolutely fine for either sex to express.

What is TPA please?

Have you been at the cooking sherry, TransParent? No one here is attacking this lad, not enabling violence. We are critical of his behaviour (racing in the opposite sex category) and those peddling lies to him about being able to be a girl. Which he can't.

It's typical of your hyperbolic rants that you see "opinions I don't like" as attacks.

Libel is a thing. Stop accusing posters on this board of "enabling violence."

Bye, transphobe who has no problem attacking kids and enabling the violence used against them.

Happy not to disappoint.

Yes, possibly

You think so?

Hate speech absolutely is not “refusing to call a boy “she”.” 🙄 I think pp has pretty much jumped the shark by now.

Is there any evidence this particular boy was beaten up and sexually assaulted? Plenty of people are bullied at school and beyond. It’s never justified. Most people who are sexually assaulted are women and girls. Not really relevant to whether a rich, privileged boy should compete in female sports, is it?