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Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete

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teawamutu · 17/06/2026 17:40

The Guardian's rearguard action on reality continues. Apparently the problem is not the parents and authorities who conspired to lie to this boy, coddle his delusions, disadvantage all girls around him in the service of his own wishful thinking etc etc etc: it's definitely the people who pointed it out:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

I am prepared to feel a little sorry for the kid, who couldn't have been exposed like this if the useful idiots around him had done their fucking jobs. But the Grauniad can fuck off with the tired 'beee kiiiind' shit as a solution. Been there, binned the t-shirt. We want our shit back.

I’m a 14-year-old trans athlete. No one should face the vicious attacks I have faced | Lina Haaga

People understand gender differently, and I was taught to respect all ideas. But the vitriol I recently experienced was not a healthy debate

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/06/2026 20:00

Cis seeks to redefine women as a subset of their biological class, @DumpyVictoria, and I refuse to be thus defined.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 17/06/2026 20:00

its a pretty good analogy, especially if you’re into freud

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 20:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 19:58

Nah, I can’t take you seriously with the “appropriately sized gerbil wheel” comment. Find some other mug.

It wasn't me who came up with the anaconda/gerbil analogy.

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 19:59

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/06/2026 19:55

I don’t hate this trans girl, @DumpyVictoria - but I do hate the ideology that has told him he is a girl and that it is entirely fair for him to compete against biological females. Frankly, it is cheating - as is every example of male bodied athletes taking the awards and opportunities from girls and women. Ditto STEM awards, business awards - any schemes that have been designed to give any advantage to women and girls - you know, to make up for the way that society has disadvantaged them for centuries, and to enable them to compete on an even field with the men, but are being stolen by men in frocks and lippy.

Or....you could believe that transfolk are who they say they are, and if you did, all the things you mention would make a lot more sense to you.

Denying their reality is a bit hateful, tbh.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 19:58

Nah, I can’t take you seriously with the “appropriately sized gerbil wheel” comment. Find some other mug.

teawamutu · 17/06/2026 19:57

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 19:54

That's a false equivalence. Your anaconda is not telling you it's a gerbil, is it? It's not saying it has a gerbil's brain inside an anaconda's body and, as a result, knows it's a gerbil despite the anaconda casing.

In the unlikely event that an anaconda told me that it was really a gerbil inside but had the wrong body, I would believe the anaconda. I would get the anaconda an appropriately-sized gerbil wheel and some gerbil friends. That would be the kind and humane way to treat a trans-gerbil, whether you believe the anaconda or not.

HTH

Oh this is much better - sorry, genuinely thought you were serious on your first post! 😂

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DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 19:56

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 19:51

And don’t lump me in with your fringe “cis” identity- it’s meaningless genderist jargon.

"Cis" is in the Oxford English dictionary. You might not like the term, but it does exist and has a clear meaning, per the dictionary.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/06/2026 19:55

I don’t hate this trans girl, @DumpyVictoria - but I do hate the ideology that has told him he is a girl and that it is entirely fair for him to compete against biological females. Frankly, it is cheating - as is every example of male bodied athletes taking the awards and opportunities from girls and women. Ditto STEM awards, business awards - any schemes that have been designed to give any advantage to women and girls - you know, to make up for the way that society has disadvantaged them for centuries, and to enable them to compete on an even field with the men, but are being stolen by men in frocks and lippy.

DisforDarkChocolate · 17/06/2026 19:54

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No considering of how others may feel but be unable to express because 'be kind' is another way of forcing women to comply.

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 19:54

teawamutu · 17/06/2026 19:49

Clarification for you. HTH.

That's a false equivalence. Your anaconda is not telling you it's a gerbil, is it? It's not saying it has a gerbil's brain inside an anaconda's body and, as a result, knows it's a gerbil despite the anaconda casing.

In the unlikely event that an anaconda told me that it was really a gerbil inside but had the wrong body, I would believe the anaconda. I would get the anaconda an appropriately-sized gerbil wheel and some gerbil friends. That would be the kind and humane way to treat a trans-gerbil, whether you believe the anaconda or not.

HTH

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 19:51

And don’t lump me in with your fringe “cis” identity- it’s meaningless genderist jargon.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 19:50

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 19:47

For as long as I can remember, I have known I am a girl. That certainty is as instinctive as knowing I am right-handed. It is difficult to explain to someone who has never been transgender or loved someone who is, but I have never lived this way to gain an advantage or take something from someone else. I live this way to honor what I know is true.

Transgirls are who they say they are. No one has the right to tell them who they are or aren't. She says she's a girl. Very obviously, her brain and body do not match up.

You might not like that they exist, you might deny their existence, but that doesn't make it true. Transgirls and transwomen do exist, and they just want to be left alone to live in their preferred gender in peace, same as us ciswomen. It must be hard when you were AMAB but are in fact female.

Whatevs 🤷‍♀️ they’re still boys, not girls.

teawamutu · 17/06/2026 19:49

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 19:47

For as long as I can remember, I have known I am a girl. That certainty is as instinctive as knowing I am right-handed. It is difficult to explain to someone who has never been transgender or loved someone who is, but I have never lived this way to gain an advantage or take something from someone else. I live this way to honor what I know is true.

Transgirls are who they say they are. No one has the right to tell them who they are or aren't. She says she's a girl. Very obviously, her brain and body do not match up.

You might not like that they exist, you might deny their existence, but that doesn't make it true. Transgirls and transwomen do exist, and they just want to be left alone to live in their preferred gender in peace, same as us ciswomen. It must be hard when you were AMAB but are in fact female.

Clarification for you. HTH.

Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete
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DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 19:47

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 18:53

There’s no such thing as a “transgirl”, he’s a cheating boy.

For as long as I can remember, I have known I am a girl. That certainty is as instinctive as knowing I am right-handed. It is difficult to explain to someone who has never been transgender or loved someone who is, but I have never lived this way to gain an advantage or take something from someone else. I live this way to honor what I know is true.

Transgirls are who they say they are. No one has the right to tell them who they are or aren't. She says she's a girl. Very obviously, her brain and body do not match up.

You might not like that they exist, you might deny their existence, but that doesn't make it true. Transgirls and transwomen do exist, and they just want to be left alone to live in their preferred gender in peace, same as us ciswomen. It must be hard when you were AMAB but are in fact female.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/06/2026 19:39

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 18:42

Poor girl. When will this hatred of transgirls subside? Hope she doesn't let it get to her too much.

Recognising female people also exist and are also worth caring about isn't hatred, although treating them like their only purpose is to be a supporting cast for male self actualisation might be. HTH

MyAmpleSheep · 17/06/2026 19:39

SabrinaThwaite · 17/06/2026 19:37

Reduxx reported on ‘Lina’ last month.

https://reduxx.info/male-student-wins-girls-prep-league-championship-track-title-beating-his-own-sister-for-gold/

He didn’t beat his sister by ‘milliseconds’ either - it was 0.58 seconds.

He didn’t beat his sister by ‘milliseconds’ either - it was 0.58 seconds.

Well, 580 milliseconds :-)

Secretseverywhere · 17/06/2026 19:35

I do think this is a form of child abuse. No child at four years old should be socially transitioned.

I do agree that no 14 year old should be attacked online but the situation of a trans 14 yo shouldn’t come up. Watchful waiting and therapy to understand why they feel this way.

It feels like such a mindfuck how are you supposed to find your sense of self when you’ve been lied to (affirmed) by everyone around you since the age of four.

Iamnotalemming · 17/06/2026 19:30

There's a staggering lack of self awareness in that article, even for a 14 year old.

Hoardasurass · 17/06/2026 19:16

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 18:42

Poor girl. When will this hatred of transgirls subside? Hope she doesn't let it get to her too much.

The poor girl was his older sister and the other girls who's wins he stole by competing in a female event whe hes male.
I very much hope that all the public shaming prevents him from competing in another female event though i doubt it will

teawamutu · 17/06/2026 19:14

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 18:42

Poor girl. When will this hatred of transgirls subside? Hope she doesn't let it get to her too much.

Poor effort, 2/10. Next.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 17/06/2026 19:12

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 18:42

Poor girl. When will this hatred of transgirls subside? Hope she doesn't let it get to her too much.

What hatred? 🤔

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 18:53

MarieDeGournay · 17/06/2026 18:43

It was a moment of joy, as simple, fleeting and shared as the victory of any other child...
Peer-reviewed studies in the British Journal of Sports Medicine or the National Center for Biotechnology Information provide a deeper scientific context.

Absolutely normal prose style for a 14 year old, surely!🙄

Sounds like AI helped.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 18:53

DumpyVictoria · 17/06/2026 18:42

Poor girl. When will this hatred of transgirls subside? Hope she doesn't let it get to her too much.

There’s no such thing as a “transgirl”, he’s a cheating boy.

CamillaMcCauley · 17/06/2026 18:52

Hollycoco · 17/06/2026 18:39

And no way was that piece written by a 14 year old.

Absolutely. I have a smart and literate 14-year-old boy but no way could he come come up with something like that, even after being smoothed out by a Guardian sub-editor.