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Has there been an influx of TRAs to Mumsnet recently?

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ByTheRiverside · 17/06/2026 16:08

I'm a long time reader. Only recently started to participate.

I very rarely saw any TRAs on here over the years. But in the past few weeks, I've noticed a lot of them coming here.

You can generally tell by the absolute shite coming out of their mouths, such as being avid apologists for sex offenders.

What's their deal with coming here? Are they saying that their 'womanhood' is reliant on us conforming to their belief, so they're trying to get us to agree with them? If that's so, then welcome!!! You're going to have to get used to reality real quick if you stick around.

Has anyone else noticed this, or just me?

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Namechangee11 · 18/06/2026 17:10

Oh look, another 'pretending to ask a question' thread about Trans people which is really just another thread where the cis gendered 'sex realists' get to dunk on trans people again.... Ffs. Seriously the amount of threads on this subject is just crazy.

murasaki · 18/06/2026 15:58

EdithStourton · 18/06/2026 15:29

The reading comprehension also bothers me.

And the really tricky questions just slide off them.

And the denial that they used the actual words you quote back at them.

EdithStourton · 18/06/2026 15:29

DeanElderberry · 17/06/2026 16:30

A lot of them have the reasoning ability of a three year old, it makes me worry a bit about the education they've received.

The reading comprehension also bothers me.

And the really tricky questions just slide off them.

SidewaysOtter · 18/06/2026 15:02

It's like going from the FT to the Sunday Sport.

I won’t hear a word against the Sport, their Twitter/X account is highly entertaining Grin

lornad00m · 18/06/2026 14:25

ByTheRiverside · 17/06/2026 16:24

They seem to lose every single argument.

"Sex is real and observable."
"But gender identity."
"Gender identity isn't observable, and defeats itself when introspected, like most delusions."
"But gender identity."
"We've been over this."
"But gender identity."

But they always still believe in the same thing. JK Rowling was right. It's a religion. And probably the stupidest of all of them.

It is a religion. And like most religions, it's absolutely riddled with misogyny.

flyingbuttress43 · 18/06/2026 14:20

The easiest is to direct them to Reddit where they will find a circle jerk of vulnerable TiMs busy shitting on women who are nasty enough to want their toilets, changing rooms, refuges, hospital wards etc. to be women only.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/06/2026 14:11

It's here. You don't have to log in to FB to read it - you can read it down the right-hand side of the page

https://www.facebook.com/daniellismore/photos/jk-rowling-wants-you-to-think-she-is-being-silenced-that-she-is-the-lone-voice-o/1573854110777988/

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2026 14:08

spannasaurus · 18/06/2026 13:40

The deleted post did include this suggestion for JKR

If you genuinely cared about women you would fund domestic violence shelters.

That one was bloody amusing.

murasaki · 18/06/2026 14:05

spannasaurus · 18/06/2026 13:40

The deleted post did include this suggestion for JKR

If you genuinely cared about women you would fund domestic violence shelters.

Oh dear.....

spannasaurus · 18/06/2026 13:40

The deleted post did include this suggestion for JKR

If you genuinely cared about women you would fund domestic violence shelters.

RNApolymerase · 18/06/2026 13:05

Yes I saw that one. Was really hoping nobody would respond. I suppose deletion works too, it may have been a PBP.

relaxitsok · 18/06/2026 09:08

The title was ‘RoterechteHand on JKR’ with an essay on his highly important opinions on why she is wrong about everything.

Hedgehogforshort · 18/06/2026 08:53

relaxitsok · 18/06/2026 08:46

That one was hilarious - ‘on JKR’. I had to look the name up in case he was a podcaster or someone I should know, with that megalomaniac thread title.

Was it a deleted thread? What was it about?

Bertiebiscuit · 18/06/2026 08:52

GreyskySexRealistsky · 17/06/2026 22:07

Bingo! Echo chamber!
I called it in my post at 16:23.
I win!

Indeed you did, well done, 💐💐💐🏆

relaxitsok · 18/06/2026 08:46

Veilsofmorning · 18/06/2026 08:42

Just for the record, another one this morning- so obviously bad faith, now deleted

That one was hilarious - ‘on JKR’. I had to look the name up in case he was a podcaster or someone I should know, with that megalomaniac thread title.

highame · 18/06/2026 08:45

There was never good faith. Nothing has changed, except we are now in a much stronger position and TRA's are having to make an attempt. Worrying for them is that their arguments don't stand against reality, they never did. It's the new kid on the block - you don't have to justify anything if you are the most persecuted against. However, it no longer works, well done us

Taztoy · 18/06/2026 08:44

I’d really like a proper debate with a TRA to see if there could be any understanding of trauma from and to them, and any workable solutions to identifying trans individuals in a way that isn’t just internal to them and a discussion around why it’s so important that they take over single sex spaces of the opposite sex. I’ve tried multiple times.

I don’t ever get that though.

Veilsofmorning · 18/06/2026 08:42

Just for the record, another one this morning- so obviously bad faith, now deleted

SwirlyGates · 18/06/2026 08:39

@highame I'm happy to debate, but I don't think the recent influx of posters are posting in good faith. They just want to provoke.

highame · 18/06/2026 08:05

For a good number of years we were asking for debate, we were thrown 'no debate' as the response. It was very frustrating. I welcome any and all who want to participate. We have great arguments and need to keep our skills honed. This debate isn't over and I, for one, want to know what others are thinking.
If we're shying away from confrontation, then, are we worthy of calling ourselves feminists? Just askin

Diverze · 18/06/2026 08:02

This is a mean spirited little thread. "Hairy knuckled punch to the jaw"? Really?

Didn't you get taught that "two wrongs don't make a right"?

I used to think I agreed with FWR. I am glad I see things differently now.

Helleofabore · 18/06/2026 08:02

OP. People name change all the time. I think that there is not as many new ones as it might seem because most of them have styles that are familiar.

Helleofabore · 18/06/2026 08:00

murasaki · 17/06/2026 22:46

The latest batch seem to think TiMs are only male when they've committed a crime. I think they think this is some sort of compromise we can agree on. It is not.

I don’t believe that this is new at all.

I remember posts where one poster who kept telling us how highly qualified in this field of study would take this position. That person would then deny that they were personally arbitrating who was and wasn’t trans.

DeanElderberry · 18/06/2026 07:54

moltopianissimo · 17/06/2026 23:39

School holidays where? Even schools in Scotland don't break up for a couple of weeks.

My bad, secondary school holidays in Ireland since the end of May. College and university vacations. Silly young people with time on their hands and absolutely no idea that they are not being original.

TheHateUGive · 18/06/2026 07:49

ByTheRiverside · 17/06/2026 21:31

What are you talking about? I've already said here that it's a good thing if the TIMs and TIFs come here, because it'll burst their little fantasy bubbles.

Given that their egos can't usually handle it, I'm just asking the question of "What's their purpose if they're all showing up now?"

Honestly, I dont think coming here would burst any bubbles.

I think perhaps the reason they are staying longer is because moderation has become more fair and/or better generally.

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